John Kerry entered the legal fray when Blackwell refused to show up to give a dipositions on 27 December....it's about time KERRY....




http://www.commondreams.org/headlines04/1228-01.htm


Doc

but...but...bush is on vacation...all that hard work ya know!

We'll see about Mr Kerry, I have to agree with Panda he could have fought but that didnt seem to be in his agenda. Seems Kerry is only good at talkign about a fight he once played a small part in 30 years ago. Kinda reminds me of Al Bundy and his highschool football war stories.

The only difference I could see between Bush and Kerry is, Kerry stood a bit taller and spoke better. Perhaps he could have made a difference but I honestly think if this is the way he shows up to fight for whats his, then I dont think I want him fighting for whats supposed to be ours.

Kerry or Bush, two sides of the same coin

Sent the following letter 50 Senators and 50 Media emails:

December 30, 2004

The work of Representative Conyers and all those who have explored and
investigated the State of Ohio's management of the Presidential election
makes a powerful statement. Among members of both houses of Congress one
may find legitimate concern for elections as such a vital key to the
existence, value and efficacy of democratic process.

Without legitimacy in our elections, we are left in something worse than a
"third world" state in that we will have lost something formerly possessed
that is lacking in most third world states - confidence that government of
the people and by the people is an attainable goal.

Without legitimacy in our elections we create a future election-time
circumstance when apathy and indifference become almost insurmountable
problems. Insurmountable apathy, indifference and distrust of the value of
voting bring to us the loss of the most powerful aspect of checking
dominance and potential abuse of executive, legislative or judicial power.
This is the precise basis of what liberty in this country looks like.

Liberty in this country must look like and prove to be in fact the means
by which a populace can - by peaceful means - change not just the leaders
but the direction of movement for a nation.

I live in Washington State where an unbelievably close election was
ultimately resolved through a recount process that included investigation.
This was done for the most part in the absence of serious allegations of
vote tampering, interference in the technology of election process as well
as deliberate harassment and discouragement of voters. As a result,
although flaws in the election process were revealed, we have a
governor-elect.

Those who have explored and investigated the electoral processes in Ohio
however have uncovered incidents of vote tampering, interference in voting
technology and harassment of voters. These took several forms including
deliberate decisions that resulted in unreasonable waiting in line and
unreasonable inconveniences - overt actions meant to discourage voting.

Residual doubts and lack of confidence in the 2000 Presidential Election
in Florida now pale before what has been engendered in Ohio. If not
challenged, Ohio 2004 will be recorded in history as a moment in time when
the American nation betrayed itself and refused any attempt at setting
aright our national integrity and confidence in our own system.

Need it be said that any Democratic Senator who does not formally sign an
electoral challenge of the Ohio vote on January 6 is doing more than
refusing to keep faith with their party? Every one of you who do not sign
will bear a future shame and loss of credibility for much more than your
party or your own future personal candidacy.

Either you stand for democracy in its simplest expressive form or you
cowardly bow to demagogues who presume to dictate the definition of
American patriotism to the rest of us. We voted you into your positions as
extensions of our will with an expectation that you will do for us in the
halls of power what we cannot do ourselves. In my opinion, there is no
intellectual, patriotic or sophisticated rationale for refusing to sign
the Ohio challenge on January 6th that will justify why you ran for office
in the first place.

The attempted electoral challenge in 2000 that was defeated under the
gavel of Mr. Gore himself fully demonstrated - in a shameful public manner
- what it looks like when those chosen turn their backs on those who did
the choosing.

Are you willing to take upon yourselves the same mantle?

Would you expect future support from people for whom you have demonstrated
a failed-patriotism at a time when it was most needed?

Sincerely,

Arthur & Lietta Ruger

Hey guys I agree, Kerry let us all down, I am so sick of the DNC, I could puke.... damn, I feel so much better now.

Doc

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We are grown ups trying to have an adult conversation. Lets try to keep that theme going.

hee hee!

when you can in no way disprove the criminal allegations against the ruling administration you can always fall back on "hee hee You're losers. hee hee". In other words: He's got nothin' so he's gotta troll.