We had a thread in the flame pit started this morning at 7:30 that called for an illegal and violent act. Several people viewed it. One person even responded to it.

The author of the post has been permanantly banned. It's that kind of shit that can shut down this forum and the entire POAC organization. I take a chance by allowing you all to say anything you want without review on my server. It's your job to help police it.

If you ever see a post advocating violence or criminal activity, or just seems supicious REPORT IT IMMEDIATELY

Dang, sorry Dude, I hadn't read through all the posts for today yet.

I'll be more vigilent though.

You don't need to read them all. It's not possible. Our vigilant and ultra observant forum users will help us.

Or I'll send you to their houses to kick their asses.

non-violently.

Those of us who are regulars know the rules.
Whom ever responded needs to take special note.
Knowing about illegal activity and saying nothing, is also illegal!
Besides, we kinda like TJ and is Wife and we wanna see him be successful!


I hope the offender wasn't an old time regular.
That would be pretty dissappointing!

dammit, i work one day & miss all the hot gossip!

So when are you and mrs poac gonna come to YOUR new chat we made???

POAC, can you answer this this question: Was it a regular member or just some hit and run troll?

I'm the person who viewed it, I think.

I didn't report it becuase I only read the first sentence of the post, then stopped reading it.

It wasn't a regular who posted it.

Opps, I think I am the one who responded to it. Not sure though. Was it the post from DX?

I hear and obey... I'm reporting PNAC right now!

Yeah, it was from DX. Something about retroactive birth control for brain-dead politicians. I'm sorry I didn't give it more weight.

I thought he was joking.

I dodn't pay any attention to who responded. But yeah, it was DX4life, or whatever his name was. Joking or not, it doesn't matter. That's all it takes for me to get our servers taken and a visit at my door. And under the new rules, that's all it takes for them to come into my house when I'm gone and take our computers and anything else they might like.

Very true POAC. I will be more vigil next time.

Thanks guys. Tapper, I'd chat if i had the time, but if it's something that interferes with my ability to handle 4 mopen windows at once, I can't do it. Robbie may be able to as soon as I get the network set up, but i don't know how long that'll be.

I'll pay attention too, POAC .... what are the new rules? Seriously, how come they don't take down the NeoCON and lobby sites that threaten the world?

Cuz they sponsor them?

Cuz you would be asking them to arrest them selves!

But I mean like the depts that Fitzie works for, are they responsible for taking those sites down? ( the sites that are .orgs and lobbies that are NON-government entities, yet threaten other sovereign nations?)

Kind'a scary to be reminded how far down that road our country's already gone

I had no idea either! If that's the case , why wasn't PNAC the first to be shut down!
Why, why, why? (I guess that's a rhetorical question, I guess I know why... just a little frustrated by it )

People like the PNAC aren't threatening the government and corporate elite. They are a think tank that makes recommendations for foreign policy. Reccomendations that harm other nations, not ours. (According to them). Everything they publish is dressed up as promoting "American Values TM Abroad". Their manifesto is called "Rebuilding America's Defenses". The feds aren't going to go after anyonme like that. It's free speech and not a threat to them.

If it's free speech and is a threat to them, because they.... oh say.... I dunno.... expose their lies, cronyism, and corruption, then you become a target for investigation/intimidation. It isn't about national security. It's about security of the power of the ruling and corporate elite. That's why environmental groups and Grannies Against the War are under surveillance and investgation. That's why prominent activists are on the no fly list. That's why the category for "eco-terrorist" was created. Are environmental activists a threat to national security if they torch a construction site or are they a threat to the developers profits?

And that's why we have to be careful with what we say here. One single reason for them to get the ball rolling on us and they can shut us down. Just on suspicion. The suspicion of terrorism removes your civil liberties. Under the Patriot act, a terrorist is defined as "someone who appears to be intended to alter government or public policy by an illegal means dangerous to human life". So if someone is suspected of appearing to be intending to do something, you can be stripped of your personal rights, property, held in secret detention, spied on without a warrant, held without legal counsel indefinately, etc etc etc.

Get it?

All it takes is one little threat of violence or criminal behavior.

I'm relatively new here but I'll keep an eye out for this kind of thing and hit the "report" button if I see anything. I moderate over at Liberal Forum, so sometimes I prefer just reading. Plus there are so many intelligent and articule lefties here, I like to read what people have to say. FYI, over at LF we also ban people instantly for 'calls to violence.' The way this administration works, one can't be too cautious. I really enjoy this forum and would hate to see it shut down. So I'll do my part and keep an eye out when I'm on the site.

Thanks! I really appreciate it.