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leftinrightsouth
The Penta-lawn
POAC
HA! Awesome!
MasterMind
I want one!!!
rcorporon
Interesting.
Max-1
O.K.
I'm going to be honest on this one.

Humor on tragedies like this are funny when appropriately distanced by time. dry.gif

Can we at least bring justice for the souls of those that did die in the Pentagon?
Reverence for them. Just like, what those of the WTC Twin Towers receive.

After that, then yea. That could be an excellent joke. Because we all know the underlying truth is a joke. A joke allowed to be played out on American's by their President and his Crew.

Sorry, didn't mean to pee. blink.gif
rcorporon
QUOTE(Max-1 @ Friday, 19 May 2006, 9:15 am) [snapback]57869[/snapback]

O.K.
I'm going to be honest on this one.

Humor on tragedies like this are funny when appropriately distanced by time. dry.gif

Can we at least bring justice for the souls of those that did die in the Pentagon?
Reverence for them. Just like, what those of the WTC Twin Towers receive.

After that, then yea. That could be an excellent joke. Because we all know the underlying truth is a joke. A joke allowed to be played out on American's by their President and his Crew.

Sorry, didn't mean to pee. blink.gif


AFAIK, nobody died in the pentagon.

The "plane" happened to hit an area that had no people in it.
Max-1
QUOTE(rcorporon @ Thursday, 18 May 2006, 5:47 pm) [snapback]57888[/snapback]

AFAIK, nobody died in the pentagon.

The "plane" happened to hit an area that had no people in it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/September_11,...acks#Fatalities
Lists building deaths at 125
Flight 77 as being 64?


http://www.guardian.co.uk/september11/stor...1776224,00.html
The attack set off fires in a portion of the Pentagon and killed 125 people inside,
in addition to those on board the plane.




sky of mind
First, Lefty, great find. I did not laugh, but it's good stuff!


Second, I'm looking at images I've seen before, and a thought hit me!
Something no one has done yet, to my knowledge.


I'd like to see a picture of both towers, a close up showing the hole caused by the impact, and down to one side a picture of the type plane that made that hole.


Then, if possible, do the same with the Pentagon, at least, according to the official version.





Then put those two pictures, complete with smaller pictures of the planes, side by side.






The point is, to compare the two buildings.
On one, the impact hole has the general shape of the airplane that made it.
On the other, well, it does not!

On one, litter and debris flew every where.
On the other, again, it did not!


Could be an interesting comparison!
Max-1
Good idea Sky,
However the structures of the WTC Twin Towers were fundamentally different than the Pentagon.
WAY DIFFERENT.
sky of mind
QUOTE(Max-1 @ Thursday, 18 May 2006, 7:30 pm) [snapback]57923[/snapback]

Good idea Sky,
However the structures of the WTC Twin Towers were fundamentally different than the Pentagon.
WAY DIFFERENT.





That shouldn't matter that much Max.

The windows on either side of the blast hole in the pentagon are not even broken!
There should at least be impact damage from the wings. Because, according to the official story,
the plane never touched the ground! And even if it did, according to the vid and the official version,
the entire plane hit the building. So why is there no impact damage on either side of the circular hole?
Why did little if any debris fly all over the place?
Jack
I'm sorry, i am confused. I never got into the 9/11 conspiracy theories, so i don't know exactly what the website is trying to say. Here is what i got

A plane was supposed to have hit the lawn first and then slid into the pentagon, which is according to witnesses. However, there are no skid marks on the lawn. So are the witnesses wrong or are they paid by the government?

-or-

The plane skidded across the lawn and the government covered it up.

-or-

A plane never hit the pentagon. I have heard this one but then again, where did the hijacked plane go?

-or-

The Pentagon never was actually damaged

-or-

There was a planned explosion in the pentagon, which brought down that segment. Then again, that would have probably burned the lawn anyway.

-or-

There was no explosion or fire and the building crumbled for some reason


Please, someone help me out here. What is the official conspiracy theory about the pentagon?
Max-1
QUOTE(sky of mind @ Thursday, 18 May 2006, 7:35 pm) [snapback]57924[/snapback]

That shouldn't matter that much Max.

The windows on either side of the blast hole in the pentagon are not even broken!
There should at least be impact damage from the wings. Because, according to the official story,
the plane never touched the ground! And even if it did, according to the vid and the official version,
the entire plane hit the building. So why is there no impact damage on either side of the circular hole?
Why did little if any debris fly all over the place?

The windows on the Pentagon were blast resistant window designed to resist large explosions such as that from car bombs and missile attacks.

The outer concrete was newly reinforced with steel and Kevlar so as to absorb large blasts from things such as car bombs and missile attacks.

The WTC Twin Towers were designed to withstand a plane collision, but unlike the newly reinforced Pentagon, the towers weren't reinforced with modern materials like the Pentagon is. The WTC Twin Towers were just steel and glass.

As far as where the plane went to at the Pentagon? It's an X-File to me too.
POAC
I'll tell yu why I like it.

It's points out the anomolies of the official story without pointing fingers, making assumptions, or creating any conspiracy theory. It lays it out right there for you in the form of sarcasm. I don't see it as humor, rather as an important questioning disguised as humor.
leftinrightsouth
QUOTE(POAC @ Friday, 19 May 2006, 9:58 am) [snapback]58005[/snapback]

I'll tell yu why I like it.

It's points out the anomolies of the official story without pointing fingers, making assumptions, or creating any conspiracy theory. It lays it out right there for you in the form of sarcasm. I don't see it as humor, rather as an important questioning disguised as humor.


I agree, Tj. That was the exact same way I looked at it.

Makes one think without saying anything.
Pinget
I need some of that grass. My yard looks terrible.

Thanks for the brain-food, Lefty. smile.gif
Buck Laser
QUOTE(POAC @ Friday, 19 May 2006, 9:58 am) [snapback]58005[/snapback]

I'll tell yu why I like it.

It's points out the anomolies of the official story without pointing fingers, making assumptions, or creating any conspiracy theory. It lays it out right there for you in the form of sarcasm. I don't see it as humor, rather as an important questioning disguised as humor.

It seems to me that the apparent lack of damage the link is talking about is based on the photos, which were all taken with telephoto lenses. As most people know, long lenses (telephotos) tend to foreshorten objects further away, making them look as if they're all in the same plane. Thus, there appears to be no damage to the "pentalawn." Add to that the canard that no one in the Pentagon died, and you have enough, in the minds of some, to create a conspiracy theory.

I'm not a particular aficionado of conspiracy theory, though I don't automatically dismiss thei possibility, but it seems to me that most all of them tend to be based on one or two anomalies that can get twisted around into full-blown alternate explanations. For the most part, I guess I fear the conspiracists are people with way too much time on their hands.
POAC
QUOTE(Buck Laser @ Friday, 19 May 2006, 9:28 am) [snapback]58016[/snapback]

It seems to me that the apparent lack of damage the link is talking about is based on the photos, which were all taken with telephoto lenses. As most people know, long lenses (telephotos) tend to foreshorten objects further away, making them look as if they're all in the same plane. Thus, there appears to be no damage to the "pentalawn." Add to that the canard that no one in the Pentagon died, and you have enough, in the minds of some, to create a conspiracy theory.

I'm not a particular aficionado of conspiracy theory, though I don't automatically dismiss thei possibility, but it seems to me that most all of them tend to be based on one or two anomalies that can get twisted around into full-blown alternate explanations. For the most part, I guess I fear the conspiracists are people with way too much time on their hands.



I knew someone who was inthe Pentagon when it was hit. Something she told me that always stuck out in my head was that the renovatons on that part of the Pentagon had been finished for a long time, but they wouldn't allow the staff to move back into their offices. Just a little more fodder for the conspiracy.
sky of mind
about conspiracy theories, I'm a healthy skeptic!
And as a skeptic I'm saying there are just too many unanswered and bizarre questions.
POAC
QUOTE(sky of mind @ Friday, 19 May 2006, 11:17 am) [snapback]58055[/snapback]

about conspiracy theories, I'm a healthy skeptic!
And as a skeptic I'm saying there are just too many unanswered and bizarre questions.


Agreed. But I don't have any concrete answers, so that's why I like the Pentalawn.

rooby roo
I'm quite the skeptic myself.
I'm skeptical of the story we've been told. At plane crash scenes we see plane parts. But at the pentagon, all the plane parts and luggage and seats and people were removed before the press arrived, while the building was still in flames? Look closely. Tons upon tons of steel and jet fuel with a 125 foot wingspan slammed into the side of this building. Maybe somebody knows where to find better photos than these. Maybe I'm not looking hard enough. But it doesn't look to me like a plane hit this building.

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rosiemom
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