to me
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I was wondering if it would be okay if I put together a Web site, say about Al Gore or Bill Clinton or extremists such as yourself showing your goals line up nicely with those of the Global Communist Movement.
You know support for homosexuality and other forms of sexual decadence have always been the hallmark of Communists, save for Soviet-era Stalinists. The Gay Rights Movement was founded by Communists. Feminism and Environmentalism were innovated by Communists.
I doubt you would disagree with anything on this Web site.
http://www.cpusa.org
Workers of the World Unite, right bud.
You know support for homosexuality and other forms of sexual decadence have always been the hallmark of Communists, save for Soviet-era Stalinists. The Gay Rights Movement was founded by Communists. Feminism and Environmentalism were innovated by Communists.
I doubt you would disagree with anything on this Web site.
http://www.cpusa.org
Workers of the World Unite, right bud.
my response:
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You could certainly call us communists, but it would make you look
pretty foolish, considering our support for capitalism and the
free-market economy. But you are free to look as foolish as you wish.
pretty foolish, considering our support for capitalism and the
free-market economy. But you are free to look as foolish as you wish.
John to me:
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No more foolish than yourself. There are few differences between your ideology and that expressed by the CPUSA. Economics aside. I scarcely doubt you understand just how similar you are.
Project for the Old American Century
to John
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And just what is our ideology?
John Rossomando
to me
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All I can say is I am a Rightist who reads all of the Marxist Web sites on the Net, and I see few ideological differences between the the Democratic Party as and contemporary Neo-Marxism. If you did your homework, you would find out the largest anti-war organizations in America were founded by Communists, and liberals who follow them are nothing but what Lenin called "useful idiots."
What do you think about this ditty about MoveOn.org:
http://web.archive.org/web/20030322140043/.../www.cpusa.org/
What do you think about this ditty about MoveOn.org:
http://web.archive.org/web/20030322140043/.../www.cpusa.org/
and then he sent...
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Perhaps you might like posting the goals of the Communists from a 1960s HUAC hearing on your site. It's about as convincing as your neo-Marxist rant. Those of you on the Left have your own form of fascism called political correctness. Gay pride parades and the actions of gay rights activists remind me of the tactics used by the Nazis in the 1920s. They squelch dissent, label it as hate speech, etc. Don't forget the Gay rights movement was founded by communists. I would argue it still is a communist front. Harry Hay anyone. http://www.workers.org/lavender-red/
Perhaps if you think Bush is a Fascists, compare his beliefs to what the REAL out of the closet fascists have to say: http://www.geocities.com/amfascpty/fpoa1.htm
I could say people like yourself are fascistic too because you demonize traditionalist Christians and Jews as the enemies of freedom. Freedom by your definition being libertinism. Marxists believe in dogmatic equality of outcomes, not just equality of opportunity. Since the collapse of the USSR, Communists have adopted the neoMarxist ideas of the Frankfurt School that replaces economics with sociology, and violent revolution with passive Gramscian revolution. If you don't know this you prove your ignorance.
Communist Goals (1963)
Documention below
Congressional Record--Appendix, pp. A34-A35
January 10, 1963
Current Communist Goals
EXTENSION OF REMARKS OF HON. A. S. HERLONG, JR. OF FLORIDA
IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
Thursday, January 10, 1963
Mr. HERLONG. Mr. Speaker, Mrs. Patricia Nordman of De Land, Fla., is an ardent and articulate opponent of communism, and until recently published the De Land Courier, which she dedicated to the purpose of alerting the public to the dangers of communism in America.
At Mrs. Nordman's request, I include in the RECORD, under unanimous consent, the following "Current Communist Goals," which she identifies as an excerpt from "The Naked Communist," by Cleon Skousen:
[From "The Naked Communist," by Cleon Skousen]
CURRENT COMMUNIST GOALS
1. U.S. acceptance of coexistence as the only alternative to atomic war.
2. U.S. willingness to capitulate in preference to engaging in atomic war.
3. Develop the illusion that total disarmament [by] the United States would be a demonstration of moral strength.
4. Permit free trade between all nations regardless of Communist affiliation and regardless of whether or not items could be used for war.
5. Extension of long-term loans to Russia and Soviet satellites.
6. Provide American aid to all nations regardless of Communist domination.
7. Grant recognition of Red China. Admission of Red China to the U.N.
8. Set up East and West Germany as separate states in spite of Khrushchev's promise in 1955 to settle the German question by free elections under supervision of the U.N.
9. Prolong the conferences to ban atomic tests because the United States has agreed to suspend tests as long as negotiations are in progress.
10. Allow all Soviet satellites individual representation in the U.N.
11. Promote the U.N. as the only hope for mankind. If its charter is rewritten, demand that it be set up as a one-world government with its own independent armed forces. (Some Communist leaders believe the world can be taken over as easily by the U.N. as by Moscow. Sometimes these two centers compete with each other as they are now doing in the Congo.)
12. Resist any attempt to outlaw the Communist Party.
13. Do away with all loyalty oaths.
14. Continue giving Russia access to the U.S. Patent Office.
15. Capture one or both of the political parties in the United States.
16. Use technical decisions of the courts to weaken basic American institutions by claiming their activities violate civil rights.
17. Get control of the schools. Use them as transmission belts for socialism and current Communist propaganda. Soften the curriculum. Get control of teachers' associations. Put the party line in textbooks.
18. Gain control of all student newspapers.
19. Use student riots to foment public protests against programs or organizations which are under Communist attack.
20. Infiltrate the press. Get control of book-review assignments, editorial writing, policymaking positions.
21. Gain control of key positions in radio, TV, and motion pictures.
22. Continue discrediting American culture by degrading all forms of artistic expression. An American Communist cell was told to "eliminate all good sculpture from parks and buildings, substitute shapeless, awkward and meaningless forms."
23. Control art critics and directors of art museums. "Our plan is to promote ugliness, repulsive, meaningless art."
24. Eliminate all laws governing obscenity by calling them "censorship" and a violation of free speech and free press.
25. Break down cultural standards of morality by promoting pornography and obscenity in books, magazines, motion pictures, radio, and TV.
26. Present homosexuality, degeneracy and promiscuity as "normal, natural, healthy."
27. Infiltrate the churches and replace revealed religion with "social" religion. Discredit the Bible and emphasize the need for intellectual maturity which does not need a "religious crutch."
28. Eliminate prayer or any phase of religious expression in the schools on the ground that it violates the principle of "separation of church and state."
29. Discredit the American Constitution by calling it inadequate, old-fashioned, out of step with modern needs, a hindrance to cooperation between nations on a worldwide basis.
30. Discredit the American Founding Fathers. Present them as selfish aristocrats who had no concern for the "common man."
31. Belittle all forms of American culture and discourage the teaching of American history on the ground that it was only a minor part of the "big picture." Give more emphasis to Russian history since the Communists took over.
32. Support any socialist movement to give centralized control over any part of the culture--education, social agencies, welfare programs, mental health clinics, etc.
33. Eliminate all laws or procedures which interfere with the operation of the Communist apparatus.
34. Eliminate the House Committee on Un-American Activities.
35. Discredit and eventually dismantle the FBI.
36. Infiltrate and gain control of more unions.
37. Infiltrate and gain control of big business.
38. Transfer some of the powers of arrest from the police to social agencies. Treat all behavioral problems as psychiatric disorders which no one but psychiatrists can understand [or treat].
39. Dominate the psychiatric profession and use mental health laws as a means of gaining coercive control over those who oppose Communist goals.
40. Discredit the family as an institution. Encourage promiscuity and easy divorce.
41. Emphasize the need to raise children away from the negative influence of parents. Attribute prejudices, mental blocks and retarding of children to suppressive influence of parents.
42. Create the impression that violence and insurrection are legitimate aspects of the American tradition; that students and special-interest groups should rise up and use ["]united force["] to solve economic, political or social problems.
43. Overthrow all colonial governments before native populations are ready for self-government.
44. Internationalize the Panama Canal.
45. Repeal the Connally reservation so the United States cannot prevent the World Court from seizing jurisdiction [over domestic problems. Give the World Court jurisdiction] over nations and individuals alike.
I might add the Fascists advocated state control of industry, not unlike the Communists. Fascism opposed the free enterprise system. Someone like Pat Buchanan is much more fascistic on economics than GW Bush. Get your facts straight. http://web.archive.org/web/20020605040703/....org/wewant.htm
Fascists were anti-Capitalists idiot.
Calling enemies of the Left is nothing but an old Communist trick dating back to the 1930s .
Perhaps if you think Bush is a Fascists, compare his beliefs to what the REAL out of the closet fascists have to say: http://www.geocities.com/amfascpty/fpoa1.htm
I could say people like yourself are fascistic too because you demonize traditionalist Christians and Jews as the enemies of freedom. Freedom by your definition being libertinism. Marxists believe in dogmatic equality of outcomes, not just equality of opportunity. Since the collapse of the USSR, Communists have adopted the neoMarxist ideas of the Frankfurt School that replaces economics with sociology, and violent revolution with passive Gramscian revolution. If you don't know this you prove your ignorance.
Communist Goals (1963)
Documention below
Congressional Record--Appendix, pp. A34-A35
January 10, 1963
Current Communist Goals
EXTENSION OF REMARKS OF HON. A. S. HERLONG, JR. OF FLORIDA
IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
Thursday, January 10, 1963
Mr. HERLONG. Mr. Speaker, Mrs. Patricia Nordman of De Land, Fla., is an ardent and articulate opponent of communism, and until recently published the De Land Courier, which she dedicated to the purpose of alerting the public to the dangers of communism in America.
At Mrs. Nordman's request, I include in the RECORD, under unanimous consent, the following "Current Communist Goals," which she identifies as an excerpt from "The Naked Communist," by Cleon Skousen:
[From "The Naked Communist," by Cleon Skousen]
CURRENT COMMUNIST GOALS
1. U.S. acceptance of coexistence as the only alternative to atomic war.
2. U.S. willingness to capitulate in preference to engaging in atomic war.
3. Develop the illusion that total disarmament [by] the United States would be a demonstration of moral strength.
4. Permit free trade between all nations regardless of Communist affiliation and regardless of whether or not items could be used for war.
5. Extension of long-term loans to Russia and Soviet satellites.
6. Provide American aid to all nations regardless of Communist domination.
7. Grant recognition of Red China. Admission of Red China to the U.N.
8. Set up East and West Germany as separate states in spite of Khrushchev's promise in 1955 to settle the German question by free elections under supervision of the U.N.
9. Prolong the conferences to ban atomic tests because the United States has agreed to suspend tests as long as negotiations are in progress.
10. Allow all Soviet satellites individual representation in the U.N.
11. Promote the U.N. as the only hope for mankind. If its charter is rewritten, demand that it be set up as a one-world government with its own independent armed forces. (Some Communist leaders believe the world can be taken over as easily by the U.N. as by Moscow. Sometimes these two centers compete with each other as they are now doing in the Congo.)
12. Resist any attempt to outlaw the Communist Party.
13. Do away with all loyalty oaths.
14. Continue giving Russia access to the U.S. Patent Office.
15. Capture one or both of the political parties in the United States.
16. Use technical decisions of the courts to weaken basic American institutions by claiming their activities violate civil rights.
17. Get control of the schools. Use them as transmission belts for socialism and current Communist propaganda. Soften the curriculum. Get control of teachers' associations. Put the party line in textbooks.
18. Gain control of all student newspapers.
19. Use student riots to foment public protests against programs or organizations which are under Communist attack.
20. Infiltrate the press. Get control of book-review assignments, editorial writing, policymaking positions.
21. Gain control of key positions in radio, TV, and motion pictures.
22. Continue discrediting American culture by degrading all forms of artistic expression. An American Communist cell was told to "eliminate all good sculpture from parks and buildings, substitute shapeless, awkward and meaningless forms."
23. Control art critics and directors of art museums. "Our plan is to promote ugliness, repulsive, meaningless art."
24. Eliminate all laws governing obscenity by calling them "censorship" and a violation of free speech and free press.
25. Break down cultural standards of morality by promoting pornography and obscenity in books, magazines, motion pictures, radio, and TV.
26. Present homosexuality, degeneracy and promiscuity as "normal, natural, healthy."
27. Infiltrate the churches and replace revealed religion with "social" religion. Discredit the Bible and emphasize the need for intellectual maturity which does not need a "religious crutch."
28. Eliminate prayer or any phase of religious expression in the schools on the ground that it violates the principle of "separation of church and state."
29. Discredit the American Constitution by calling it inadequate, old-fashioned, out of step with modern needs, a hindrance to cooperation between nations on a worldwide basis.
30. Discredit the American Founding Fathers. Present them as selfish aristocrats who had no concern for the "common man."
31. Belittle all forms of American culture and discourage the teaching of American history on the ground that it was only a minor part of the "big picture." Give more emphasis to Russian history since the Communists took over.
32. Support any socialist movement to give centralized control over any part of the culture--education, social agencies, welfare programs, mental health clinics, etc.
33. Eliminate all laws or procedures which interfere with the operation of the Communist apparatus.
34. Eliminate the House Committee on Un-American Activities.
35. Discredit and eventually dismantle the FBI.
36. Infiltrate and gain control of more unions.
37. Infiltrate and gain control of big business.
38. Transfer some of the powers of arrest from the police to social agencies. Treat all behavioral problems as psychiatric disorders which no one but psychiatrists can understand [or treat].
39. Dominate the psychiatric profession and use mental health laws as a means of gaining coercive control over those who oppose Communist goals.
40. Discredit the family as an institution. Encourage promiscuity and easy divorce.
41. Emphasize the need to raise children away from the negative influence of parents. Attribute prejudices, mental blocks and retarding of children to suppressive influence of parents.
42. Create the impression that violence and insurrection are legitimate aspects of the American tradition; that students and special-interest groups should rise up and use ["]united force["] to solve economic, political or social problems.
43. Overthrow all colonial governments before native populations are ready for self-government.
44. Internationalize the Panama Canal.
45. Repeal the Connally reservation so the United States cannot prevent the World Court from seizing jurisdiction [over domestic problems. Give the World Court jurisdiction] over nations and individuals alike.
I might add the Fascists advocated state control of industry, not unlike the Communists. Fascism opposed the free enterprise system. Someone like Pat Buchanan is much more fascistic on economics than GW Bush. Get your facts straight. http://web.archive.org/web/20020605040703/....org/wewant.htm
Fascists were anti-Capitalists idiot.
Calling enemies of the Left is nothing but an old Communist trick dating back to the 1930s .
to which I responded...
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John,
Respectfully you lack a basic understanding of political science and
exhibit an unhealthy fascination with homosexuality. I think you
should probably explore both fields to become a better informed and
well-rounded person. Don't forget to use lube.
Since our organization disagrees with most everything on your 1963 red
scare list, I guess it's safe to assume that we are not communists.
It's correct to say we are an independent alternative media
organization that has a website that serves as an online aggregator of
news stories that focus on political and corporate corruption that
attracts a small amount of hatemail from hateful people who lack a
basic understanding of the topics that make them so hateful.
Since nearly everyone across the political spectrum from the far left,
center, and moderate wing of the right all oppose the war, it's
impossible to guess someones stance on the war unless they are for it.
Which would be the extreme right and their useful idiots who are so
filled with hate and fear that they yearn to obey and follow a leader
who will protect them from a threat that either does not exist or died
out in the 60's.
Hammers, sickles, and buttsex,
Tj Templeton
Respectfully you lack a basic understanding of political science and
exhibit an unhealthy fascination with homosexuality. I think you
should probably explore both fields to become a better informed and
well-rounded person. Don't forget to use lube.
Since our organization disagrees with most everything on your 1963 red
scare list, I guess it's safe to assume that we are not communists.
It's correct to say we are an independent alternative media
organization that has a website that serves as an online aggregator of
news stories that focus on political and corporate corruption that
attracts a small amount of hatemail from hateful people who lack a
basic understanding of the topics that make them so hateful.
Since nearly everyone across the political spectrum from the far left,
center, and moderate wing of the right all oppose the war, it's
impossible to guess someones stance on the war unless they are for it.
Which would be the extreme right and their useful idiots who are so
filled with hate and fear that they yearn to obey and follow a leader
who will protect them from a threat that either does not exist or died
out in the 60's.
Hammers, sickles, and buttsex,
Tj Templeton