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Jack
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sky of mind
75% Optomist
25% Pragmatist



In words.

Hope for the best
plan for the worst!
MasterMind
I never think about how much water is in the glass. I am just happy I have a glass.
soon2b
I'm an optimist, but I'm not a blind optimist. Sometimes a pessimistic position can be an effective passive-agressive way to get people to take an issue more seriously.
MasterMind
What ever happened to a blunt force trauma to the head to get people to take things more seriously?
sky of mind
QUOTE(MasterMind @ Wednesday, 21 December 2005, 8:05 pm)
What ever happened to a blunt force trauma to the head to get people to take things more seriously?
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"Generally" that would be considered illegal.
Radical Liberal
Reminds of this cartoon.

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I'd consider myself a pragmatist.
MasterMind
Hey, dont make fun of my spelling.

In some nations its perfectly legal.
AntiFlagWaver
You left off one: Realist! That's me.
soon2b
QUOTE(MasterMind @ Wednesday, 21 December 2005, 9:05 pm)
What ever happened to a blunt force trauma to the head to get people to take things more seriously?
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You're really John Bolton aren't you?
MasterMind
Haha, to my generation BLUNT force trauma means something completly different then what you are thinking.
TheVinegarTaster
I am an unashamed, unrepentant, unadulterated Optimist. I view the world with open eyes, recognizing that reality, pragmatism, and optimism are not competing positions, but are simply points of view dependant on how one chooses to to frame a given situation.

I have absolute faith in the general goodness of people, in the powerful pull of right over wrong, and in a natural balance that ensures that nothing bad will stay bad forever. Yes, indeed; I wear the lable of Committed Optimist with great pride!
sky of mind
QUOTE(TheVinegarTaster @ Friday, 23 December 2005, 4:46 am)
I am an unashamed, unrepentant, unadulterated Optimist.  I view the world with open eyes, recognizing that reality, pragmatism, and optimism are not competing positions, but are simply points of view dependant on how one chooses to to frame a given situation.

I have absolute faith in the general goodness of people, in the powerful pull of right over wrong, and in a natural balance that ensures that nothing bad will stay bad forever.  Yes, indeed; I wear the lable of Committed Optimist with great pride!
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Good on ya VT.

And let it be known that as an unashamed, unrepentant, unadulterated Optimist,
you have also been an on the street, in your face activist and protester!
yankhadenuf
QUOTE(sky of mind @ Friday, 23 December 2005, 1:31 pm)
Good on ya VT.

And let it be known that as an unashamed, unrepentant, unadulterated Optimist,
you have also been an on the street, in your face activist and protester!
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Me too.. biggrin.gif hopeless optimist biggrin.gif ... but I guess, the on the steet version>
Pollyana with an edge ? blink.gif
Jack
QUOTE(AntiFlagWaver @ Thursday, 22 December 2005, 7:39 am)
You left off one: Realist!  That's me.
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First off, a realist is a pragmatist and second, i don't think you are.
AntiFlagWaver
Your loyalty to Democratic party blinds you to reality.
MasterMind
But wait, is not ones reality, their OWN perception of events around them? So the only one who is really blind to reality are those who lie to themselves, which is everyone.

We lie to ourselves far more then anyone else will ever lie to us, save Bush, his ablilty to lie and people to believe it will be legendary in the future.
sky of mind
I'm a realist is another way of saying,
I'm being realistic, you aren't!


In order for you to BE realistic,
someone has to be unrealistic!
MasterMind
There would have to be a clearly defined reality for one to be of it and the other not.

Once you learn anything about quantim mechanics, you will question what we consider reality and what we dont.

Does this make me unrealistic, because I feel everyone has their own reality?
AntiFlagWaver
When you don't have a pre-existing loyalty to anyone or anything, then you are much closer to reality than someone who has that pre-existing bias.
sky of mind
QUOTE(AntiFlagWaver @ Tuesday, 27 December 2005, 12:43 pm)
When you don't have a pre-existing loyalty to anyone or anything, then you are much closer to reality than someone who has that pre-existing bias.
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In other words, because YOU don't have a pre-existing loyalty,
YOUR reality is a more TRUE reality?


How do you be a human being and not have ANY bias?
Sorry AFW, but I don't buy it.
You are not super human.

If you have no bias, then you have no opinion,
and clearly that is certainly NOT the case here!
Jack
I don't like the way that i did this poll. All of the pessimists here believe that they are just realist.
sky of mind
QUOTE(Jesus of Suburbia @ Tuesday, 27 December 2005, 1:40 pm)
I don't like the way that i did this poll. All of the pessimists here believe that they are just realist.
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Jack,

That how the pessimists justify being pessimistic!



"I'm not an old stick in the mud,
I'm just being realistic!'
rcorporon
I'd say that I'm a pessimist/realist.

But I don't like labels smile.gif
sky of mind
QUOTE(rcorporon @ Sunday, 1 January 2006, 7:08 am)
I'd say that I'm a pessimist/realist.

But I don't like labels smile.gif
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The term "realist" isn't and sholdn't be on the list.
Reality is entirely dependant on perspective,
and my perspective is unique to me.

Having "Realist" as a measure of public attitude
would be like letting everyone decide how much an inch is.
Clearly everyones yard stick would be a little different!

If an inch is an inch, the standard understood by everyone to be an inch,
it's not en emotional measure. It's a fact!

A Fact is not open to interpretation.
Only a computer that deals only in facts can be a true realist!
leftinrightsouth
Pragmatic/optimist

Is that possible? I, like a few before, am very much in the belief that deep down inside the majority of humans are good. Most people WOULDN'T shoot you rather than look at you (or how ever that saying goes), but I am pretty pragmatic about how I go about things. I think to say I am optimistic in my outlook of my world is a true statement. But I pragmatically prepare for my life, I go about things in the most "logical" manner. Does that make ANY sense??

(By the way, just wanted to say HI to everyone, I was gone for a few weeks and am SOOOOO happy to be back here to enjoy all of the engaging conversation and debate provided by all of you wonderful folks!!)

--Lefty
sky of mind
QUOTE(leftinrightsouth @ Monday, 2 January 2006, 8:41 am)
Pragmatic/optimist

Is that possible? I, like a few before, am very much in the belief that deep down inside the majority of humans are good. Most people WOULDN'T shoot you rather than look at you (or how ever that saying goes), but I am pretty pragmatic about how I go about things. I think to say I am optimistic in my outlook of my world is a true statement. But I pragmatically prepare for my life, I go about things in the most "logical" manner. Does that make ANY sense??

(By the way, just wanted to say HI to everyone, I was gone for a few weeks and am SOOOOO happy to be back here to enjoy all of the engaging conversation and debate provided by all of you wonderful folks!!)

--Lefty
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Your absence was noticed Lefty.

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