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yankhadenuf
cool.gif Feedback please> is PNAC legal or criminal , and WHY?
MasterMind
They are Criminal.

"When any group meets in private, for the purpose of banding together for political gain; they then try to enforce their own brand of laws, is criminal towards the Constitution."

Washington, in a speach against Sectionalism and Politcal Parties
yankhadenuf
QUOTE(MasterMind @ Friday, 16 December 2005, 10:35 am)
They are Criminal.

"When any group meets in private, for the purpose of banding together for political gain; they then try to enforce their own brand of laws, is criminal towards the Constitution."

Washington, in a speach against Sectionalism and Politcal Parties
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This is a terrific quote and right on target MM, from the first George W., the only one to trust !
sky of mind
QUOTE(MasterMind @ Friday, 16 December 2005, 10:35 am)
They are Criminal.

"When any group meets in private, for the purpose of banding together for political gain; they then try to enforce their own brand of laws, is criminal towards the Constitution."

Washington, in a speach against Sectionalism and Politcal Parties
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The PNAC is also by it's nature, a conspiracy!
A true, honest to goodness, verifiable conspiracy.
MasterMind
I agree.
yankhadenuf
QUOTE(sky of mind @ Friday, 16 December 2005, 11:36 pm)
The PNAC is also by it's nature, a conspiracy!
A true, honest to goodness, verifiable conspiracy.
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Does a true conspiracy violate RICO , treason laws, both?
or some other law(s) blink.gif ?
Richard J. Schaedler, Esquire
QUOTE(yankhadenuf @ Friday, 16 December 2005, 9:30 am)
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Good morning Yank,

It is good to join this website and vote in your poll. My position, I am certain, comes as no shock to you given our prior exchanges.

Some updates: I took part this past Wednesday in a protest at the office of Charles Dent, PA-15th in Bethlehem, just a few blocks from my office. About 20 of us stood out in 15 degree temps to protest the war in Iraq and Bush's criminal administration. It was another uplifting experience for me as a follow up to September 24, 2005 in DC.

PNAC was definitely on all of our minds. I sense many in the country are painfully slowly coming to grips with thereality we have sensed for many months. I am particularly upbeat about the Senate fillibuster on the Patriot Act extension.

The pressure must be kept on Bush and the majority in both houses of Congress. Bush's speech scheduled for Sunday evening should be countered by a vigorous response from the likes of Murtha, Reid, Feingold, Kucinich, Conyers, and many others. Their voices should each take on one point of Bush's speech and counter itas we know full well Bush is going to lie to we, the American people.

As always, it is great to exchange views and comments with you and I wish you a Merry Christmas, Happy New Year and and an overall enjoyable and peaceful holiday season.

Richard J. Schaedler, Esquire

POAC
The PNAC is definately a conspiracy. They are and have been conspiring but there's nothing illegal about that. They aren't operating in secret. The secrecy comes from the way the mainstream press has regarding discussion of the PNAC as taboo.

Being a fascist isn't illegal.
Even planning a global hegemonic final solution isn't illegal.
Although the legality of the execution of their agenda could be (should be) questioned, even their mass murder in the Middle East has been cloaked in legal half truths and grey areas. That's what these guys specialize in.


sky of mind
QUOTE(POAC @ Saturday, 17 December 2005, 7:57 am)
The PNAC is definately a conspiracy. They are and have been conspiring but there's nothing illegal about that. They aren't operating in secret. The secrecy comes from the way the mainstream press has regarding discussion of the PNAC as taboo.

Being a fascist isn't illegal.
Even planning a global hegemonic final solution isn't illegal.
Although the legality of the execution of their agenda could be (should be) questioned, even their mass murder in the Middle East has been cloaked in legal half truths and grey areas. That's what these guys specialize in.
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Thank you TJ. I had a feeling I could count on you!
The PNAC is not criminal. If they were, they could not exist.
They are also not a secret. You can read all about them on the net!

Exposing this term PNAC and all that it means to the general public,
making this term PNAC as common in conversation as
Christmas vs Holidays
is the crux of the issue.

It is my belief that the more the PNAC is recognised and seen as the foundation
of this White HOuse and the Republican Party today, they more they will be connected to the crimes we are fighting against today,
and the more they will self defeat!

Although the PNAC is not secret, they don't operate in the light of day.
We all know there are monsters in the swamp,
the MSM has decided for us that we don't need to know.




I would expect American Politics in general to get very hot in the coming months after the holidays. I can feel it. It's as if both sides are gathering snow balls in their respective snow forts, and are just waiting for the Christmas truce to pass.

By summer this forum will be hot!
get yer freeper troll zap guns all cleaned and polished!


I bought a big box of microwave popcorn.
I'm all ready for the show!
yankhadenuf
QUOTE(sky of mind @ Saturday, 17 December 2005, 12:28 pm)
Thank you TJ.  I had a feeling I could count on you!
The PNAC is not criminal. If they were, they could not exist.
They are also not a secret. You can read all about them on the net!

Exposing this term PNAC and all that it means to the general public,
making this term PNAC as common in conversation as
Christmas vs Holidays
is the crux of the issue.

It is my belief that the more the PNAC is recognised and seen as the foundation
of this White HOuse and the Republican Party today, they more they will be connected to the crimes we are fighting against today,
and the more they will self defeat!

Although the PNAC is not secret, they don't operate in the light of day.
We all know there are monsters in the swamp,
the MSM has decided for us that we don't need to know.
I would expect American Politics in general to get very hot in the coming months after the holidays. I can feel it. It's as if both sides are gathering snow balls in their respective snow forts, and are just waiting for the Christmas truce to pass.

By summer this forum will be hot!
get yer freeper troll zap guns all cleaned and polished!
I bought a big box of microwave popcorn.
I'm all ready for the show!
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Huh? blink.gif Is it possible that PNAC is organized crime hiding behind a legal 501c3 status illegally ? Would the law stop going after the Mafia and street gangs if they all of a sudden filed for tax-exempt 501c3 Non-Profit Organization status? The Mafia and street gangs could then have "bake sales", with their "mission" to conspire in "educational" clubs? .
sky of mind
QUOTE(yankhadenuf @ Saturday, 17 December 2005, 1:15 pm)
Huh? blink.gif  Is it possible that PNAC is  organized crime hiding behind a legal 501c3 status illegally ?  Would the law stop going after the Mafia and street gangs if they all of a sudden filed for tax-exempt 501c3 Non-Profit Organization status? The Mafia and street gangs could then have "bake sales", with their "mission" to conspire in "educational" clubs?  .
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It is entirely possible that there is more to the PNAC than what can be found on the net.
However, that which can be found on the net, is enough!

Inform the apathetic, and they will no longer be apathetic!
yankhadenuf
QUOTE(sky of mind @ Saturday, 17 December 2005, 1:32 pm)
It is entirely possible that there is more to the PNAC than what can be found on the net.
However, that which can be found on the net, is enough!

Inform the apathetic, and they will no longer be apathetic!
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I believe what is found on the net is overwhelmingly enuf too, so there is something definitely afoot. How can such a humongous conspiracy go un-prosecuted ? The ignorant we can Google, but the apathetic authorities that should be prosecuting PNAC > why don't they do their jobs ?

The ignorant we can inform with your neat car window signs > Also , went to copy center and shrunk 16 of 'em onto one sheet of paper and ran off about 50 sheets of 16 business card sizes with "Google PNAC".
Then went to the mall (during heavy shopping season) and Googled PNAC on mall benches, restrooms, and even the elevator!
(That mall got Googled biggrin.gif )

Have you seen Wallace vs Bush et al? He's a retired lawyer who is going to try to sue the entire Bush Administration for un-Constitutionally implementing the PNAC plot in the White House:

http://www.wallacevbushlawsuit.com/
yankhadenuf
QUOTE(Richard J. Schaedler @ Esquire,Saturday, 17 December 2005, 7:55 am)
Good morning Yank,

...PNAC was definitely on all of our minds.  I sense many in the country are painfully slowly coming to grips with thereality we have sensed for many months.  I am particularly upbeat about the Senate fillibuster on the Patriot Act extension....

As always, it is great to exchange views and comments with you and I wish you a Merry Christmas, Happy New Year and and an overall enjoyable and peaceful holiday season.

Richard J. Schaedler, Esquire
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Richard, It is great to see you join this POAC site! You will find it an extremely informative site about PNAC , Neoconism, and overall daily reports on many important topics (lots of Bushie and war- related too). The graphics and art on this site are powerful eyecatching messages to the public. Like sky-of-mind says, this is going to be one of hottest sites to expose PNAC by the summer> Here is the sign he created to put in our car windows to draw folks here:

http://oldamericancentury.org/bb/index.php?showtopic=5837

We are going to Google PNAC everywhere to let the public at large outside the blogs know.

You will find this link at Politicalfriendster interesting > it is a thread for the Patriot Act:

http://www.politicalfriendster.com/showPer...me=Patriot-Act-

It's good to know you are keeping the spirit going even in the cold ! Many thanks to you and those that come from behind the monitor screens to spread enlightenment to achieve peace through the word of truth. It looks like many minds and eyes will be opened in 2006! Best Wishes to you as well during this Christmas Holiday season and a very Happy New Year smile.gif yank
yankhadenuf
QUOTE(POAC @ Saturday, 17 December 2005, 7:57 am)
The PNAC is definately a conspiracy. They are and have been conspiring but there's nothing illegal about that. They aren't operating in secret. The secrecy comes from the way the mainstream press has regarding discussion of the PNAC as taboo.

Being a fascist isn't illegal.
Even planning a global hegemonic final solution isn't illegal.
Although the legality of the execution of their agenda could be (should be) questioned, even their mass murder in the Middle East has been cloaked in legal half truths and grey areas. That's what these guys specialize in.
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I once saw a man on the news go to prison for conspiring to murder his lover's husband... the conspiracy was never followed-through, yet the man was sentenced to prison for four years. Even when not secret (this idiot was videotaped), such a conspiracy is still a crime> or so I thought until , like you said, the mainstream media renders overwhelmingly large conspiracies as "taboo"
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