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Seems like an interesting video that the students made but when they make claims like that, even against bush, you need to go in with a bit of skepticism. A few things have always made me think that bush and Co. didn't actually plan and execute 9/11.

1. Nothing they do ever works right.
2. The way bush just sat in the classroom, frozen with fear.
3. They would have made it look like Iraq did it.

I think that a lot of 9/11 theories are a bit , but there are a few things that i think are true.

1. They did absolutly nothing to stop it.
2. Some of the people in the White House wanted it to happen.
3. They used to push their twisted agenda.
4. It could have been stopped.
5. It was their fault it happened.

There is a reason why it will take a lot to convince me that Bush Co. actually did do it and that is because a lot of things become way more serious and we will have a lot more problems then we do right now. The entire scope of the last 10 years will have changed and our country will never be the same if that was indeed true.

Then again, in twenty years i won't be a bit surprised if i hear that they did do it. I should be a senator by then, so i will make sure we have our justice .

Cheney, Wolfowitz, Rove, Rumsfeld, and a few other Neocon shadow players probably are guilty of playing more of a role in the actual 9/11 attack than Bush was. Bush was too stupid to be allowed into the planning of something so heinous. Bush was (and is) a figurehead who was "electable" with little brother's Florida and Diebold, along with Katherine Harris to make sure the election results in Florida were "certified." That was the precurser to the 9/11 attack...Bush had to be "elected," and then in 2004, he had to be "elected" again so power could be sustained within the Republican ranks.

Rumsfeld and Cheney...old warhawks who wanted war...look to them.

Catherine

First, most of this circumstantial evidence I have seen before.
What was of immediate interest is that THIS story is on FOX NEWS.
Although it is a local Fox outlet, I was still surprised to see it.

Doesn't this create a bit of a paradox for Fox News viewers?




About the events of 9-11.

Yeah, i've seen most of the conspiracy "evidence" and in my mind I find
much of it easy to explain. For example....

In this video it points to what might look to be puffs of smoke that might be
demolition explosions below the collapsed section as the tower comes down.

I have seen this phenomenah in slow motion with the sound off, (to remove commentary)
and I don't see demolition explosions. I see a very large, very tall burning building that is very rapidly being squeezed. It seems only natural to me that smoke, which there is a lot of, would very quickly be pushed through out the lower portions of the building and would squirt out just about any opening under the falling sections!

Those who heard the Boom, boom, boom as the floors collapsed.
Imagine a few hundred tons falling 15 feet. Boom!
Imagine all that steel instantly snapping, Boom!
The entire building structure would revirberate like a drum.


I say look. If you're gonna point to any so called consipiracy evidence,
you better have solid hard evidence. Other wise you dilute all the really
interesting and credible questions of conspiracy. Such as, if a 737 hit the pentigon, how come they didn't find a single large piece of it? How come the wings of the airplane didn't knock out the windows adjacent to where the body of the airplane supposedly went into the building? How come all of the tapes from all of the security camera's in the area were snatched up even before the fires were put out, and have yet to be released?

Yes there are serious questions concerning the events of 9/11, what led up to 9/11 and who is involved with 9/11.
I STILL consider it highly suspicious that we have not captured Osama!
I believe we never will!


So, why is all this material that is very damaging to the entire Bush administration,
why is this stuff on a Fox News Program. Fox being the news source bought and paid for by the conservatives? Is there a change in the wind?

Someone fell asleep at the helm.

I seriousely doubt that.

Then what do you think?

I dunno, but I highly doubt it's an accident.

If I had to guess, Id guess one of 2 possibilities.


1.) This is a deliberate attempt to discredit the conspiracy theorists and associate conspiracy theory with liberalism.
(In which case, the election year crap has begun)

2.) The Fox News locals are independant and don't check with Fox news central when making programming decisions.
(In which case, Fox news viewers have gotten used to their paradoxical world view.)

I live in chicago and the fox news station isn't too bad. The local news stations are probably pretty independent when it comes to material. Do you think that a local fox new station in boston would be ultra conservative? I don't know where this fox 4 is from(there are many of them in the country) but odds are is isn't in Kansas or Alabama.

That's interesting. I wonder how people in liberal markets feature the extremes of Fox News material?

I mean, 9/11 conspiracy to Sean Hannity, Bill OH Really, or the lady with an adams apple is quite a leap!

I believe that as with the Holocaust or the Kennedy assassinations, that the possibilities here are simply to terrible for most people to contemplate. Perhaps the reason Bush looked so dumbstruck was because the horror and the devastation were much more than he had expected. There have been so many coincidences in recent years, from a "second Pearl Harbor" to improbable election victories that have served to advance the agenda of PNAC. Evil in the pursuit of power has existed througout human history, no nation or generation should feel immune.

I think of it like Perl Harbour. The US gov't didn't arrange Pearl Harbour, but it was for the overall benefit of the gov't that it occured, so they did very little to prevent it.

9/11 was a neocon's wet dream come true, and with it, they could do anything they want. Franken goes over it a lot in his new book, so I won't rehash it here.