I must say that I find this forum is setup very nice and so far I have found some very interesting viewpoints and articles.

Let me introduce myself, I am FUTIILITY....

At last, a little futility in our lives!

Welcome!

Nice Bugs!


Your Futility has found a purpose?

Futility???

Why yes, and well for me it all started around the time the SHRUB stole the first election in "2000" down in Florida and then again in "2004" in Ohio.


happymisanthropy.....hmmmmm

I believe that you are happy to display a disposition of dislike and mistrust other people.

Would that be limited to politicians in general only..

At last, a little futility in our lives!

Welcome!

Alas, more futility in our lives. Oh well, come on in.

Well if we can't stop our politicians from fhucking our selves over as good Americans then I figure that a little public display of my own Futility might be in order.

I like your van avatar soon2b as it reminds of the times when the masses were willing to be less materialistic and plenty mobile in some ways and were not afraid to stand up and voice their opinions without the fear of being labeled a liberal.

Now the new van of today the "SUV" is just a symbol of the over worked & under sexed GOPER career soccer mom & dad with their 2.5 kids trying to live the fairy tail life just in order to get their neighbors approval.

Not entirely true, in that those people are still out there.
Or I should say, we are.

You just don't hear much about us these days.
Bushco gets most of the headlines.

How many of the so called "us" are now afraid to be called Liberal...???

Even if you include the so called new Progressives it seems that the GOPERS led by their media mouth-pieces Coulter, Limbaugh, Hanity & O'reilly have now stigmatized the word liberal and very few of the liberal masses are willing to be vocal because they are afraid of what their bosses or nieghbors might think.

That's just the root for some of our problems today and along with fact that very few people are willing to rock the boat and just prefer to go along for the ride silently leads me to think things won't change here until all the good jobs are finally gone over sea & healthcare is in totally collapse for whats left of the true middle class backbone in our country.

I can't speak for anyone but myself.
I have never been anything but proud of my liberalism.
And my pride won't let me hide, or be quiet!

As Ken Wilber says,
If you are truely honest with your self,
then you simply can't be quiet!
You will in your way, share that realization!

I would personally fear the realization of my own lack of truth,
more than I could ever fear for being what I am.

A Liberal!




"And therefore, all of those for whom authentic transformation has deeply unseated their souls must, I believe, wrestle with the profound moral obligation to shout from the heart-perhaps quietly and gently, with tears of reluctance; perhaps with fierce fire and angry wisdom; perhaps with slow and careful analysis; perhaps by unshakable public example-but authenticity always and absolutely carries a demand and duty: you must speak out, to the best of your ability, and shake the spiritual tree, and shine your headlights into the eyes of the complacent. You must let that radical realization rumble through your veins and rattle those around you.
Alas, if you fail to do so, you are betraying your own authenticity.You are hiding your true estate. You don't want to upset others because you don't want to upset your self. You are acting in bad faith, the taste of a bad infinity.
Because, you see, the alarming fact is that any realization of depth carries a terrible burden: Those who are allowed to see are simultaneously saddled with the obligation to communicate that vision in no uncertain terms. That is the bargain. You were allowed to see the truth under the agreement that you would communicate it to others (that is the ultimate meaning of the bodhisattva vow). And therefore, if you have seen, you simply must speak out. Speak out with compassion, or speak out with angry wisdom, or speak out with skillful means, but speak out you must.
This is truly a terrible burden, a horrible burden, because in anycase there is no room for timidity. The fact that you might be wrong is simply no excuse: you might be right in your communication, and you might be wrong, but that doesn't matter. What does matter, as Kierkegaard so rudely reminded us, is that only by investing and speaking your vision with passion, can the truth, one way or another, finally penetrate the reluctance of the world. If you are right, or if you are wrong, it is only your passion that will force either to be discovered. It is your duty to promote that discovery-either way-and therefore it is your duty to speak your truth with whatever passion and courage you can find in your heart. You must shout, in whatever way you can."
Ken Wilbur

Well I'm pleased to meet you and hope you won't forget my name...


I think the internet Bullet Boards will give most of us Liberals a new poilitical voice as long as the right-wing goverment shills and their trolls don't sabotage this venue with their un-american & un-Patriot Act.

Ditto, Sky...


Hi, Futility.. and Welcome

Hi FUTILITY! Welcome!

Hi, Futility.

to POAC!

I haven't specifically figured out how to quote, but I am so agreeing with what you've said. I recently found myself standing in the middle of a group of my colleagues being told that I was the "token democrat" for the office and that they were sure "that I'm (the speaker) going to heaven and I'm pretty sure you (myself) are going to hell". Isn't that nice? Of course, I initiated the conversation when a very bright woman whom I work with and respect told me that she was ultra conservative and I questioned exactly what she meant by that...turns out most of her opinions are progressively liberal, but I don't feel that she has the mind to call herself a liberal for the exact reason I stated above. To be a liberal here (in Mississippi) is nearly calling yourself a "hater of all that is good and pure". Somehow, (media, preachers, and whoever else) have turned the term Liberal into the antithesis of evil...tree hugging freaks.
At times I gently proclaim my beliefs, but more often than not I feel as though I angrily scream them as I am accosted by those who deem I will burn in the firey pits of hell for thinking its perfectly acceptable for a woman to chose what happens to her own body or for believing that the United States are not actually the police of the world and has no right whatsoever to push its ideological beliefs down the throats of other countries, cultures or peoples.
I like my colleagues, I disagree with their opinions on many things, but I (unlike them) don't feel it's my job to change thier minds or condemn them to hell if they won't. I do think it's my duty to give them the other side of the coin though...the world is not really what it is painted by the brush of Gee W. From there I have no more controll over their ideas than they over mine.
I wish I could find I place where it doesn't feel like I am making myself an outsider by voicing my opinions on the matters of this world. I do have an opinion and it's valid. I am allowed to say how I feel, but why does it hurt so much to do it?

After the group walked off the other day, after proclaiming my destiny to burn in hell, I cried. It hurt so unbelievably bad. I have really tried to understand why it hurt me so much. I don't think it was to be the one against the many (I'm nearly always that), but I think it was because rather than having a conversation, however heated it may have been, about the politics of this nation, it turned into a personal attack against me. That hurt. In all that I said (and yes, at times I said it loudly), never once did I say a single thing personal about what they were talking about, never did I damn them with my judgement. And though it hurt me, and actually still does hurt, their comments also made me realize exactly why I have chosen to be who I am. Because I DO NOT want to be the one that moralizes on the behalf of others, I DO NOT want to be the one who condemns people for their ideas. I DO NOT want to be the one to scared to even question the validity of my beliefs. And I guess that's why I am on the outside, because if being a part of the group means that I have to take on those traits, then I will proudly proclaim from the rooftops that I am myself and I think for myself.

Left,

Many of us on this forum have from time to time been singled out because our our liberal views.


I live in a very blue state, but in the warehouse where I work I am the token liberal. On the morning of 9/11 I stood toe to toe with a conservative, and several others behind him, with him thumping me on the chest telling me this happened because of Clinton. That's bad, but the really bad thing was, he is also my boss!
Though I was exceptionally intimidated, I did not back off even one millimeter!

I have had to stand my ground several times, but never in quite that way. For years I was angry at them for their demand to be angry at the events of that day while refusing me my own anger, because being a liberal I didn't have the right!

I spent the rest of that day alone, and to this day will not sit with them to eat lunch. What is really most interesting though, as that these staunch Conservatives now look to ME for answers and leadership! I'm always being asked, in other words, "now what?"

I am and always have been proud of my progressive liberal roots. In my world as a kid i never used those words. I just figured it was being smart and reasonable! I mean, black people are just as human as I am, so why shouldn't they be treated just as I am? Women are just as smart and capable as I am, so why can't they do any job they want? And so on and so on! Today I ask, if i'm in great pain and I know I'm going to die eventually, why should the government tell me how I must die? If I am poor and sick, why shold I be required to buy my drugs from American companies that do not care if I live or die, as long as they get their slice?

The American president lied to me. Today most of America has come to accept this truth. And as I ask the other questions I ask, how long will he be allowed to get away with it?


Be proud of your Progressive Liberal roots!
The day is coming, faster all the time,
when you will become a member of the leadership in your community.

I Swear and Promise this to you!