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bob.appleyard
Hello, I'm Bob. I'm from the UK, but I do have a (perhaps rather unhealthy) fascination with US politics. I'd describe myself as a liberal verging on anarchist, or as an English socialist in the Owenian tradition, depending on how much I though you knew about European intellectual movements.

Bearing that in mind, I live in Leeds, making me a Yorkshireman (yorks born, yorks bread, strong in t' arm, thick in t' head), though I was born in Manchester, which brings up some interesting conflicts with local traditions -- Yorkshire and Lancashire have been at war, and hate each other, while everyone in the north hates Manchester for the Industrial Revolution. On one side, my family is from a family of engineers. My great grandfather was a dockworker, my grandfather was a mechanics lecturer, my father is a nuclear safety engineer. On the other, I claim yeoman (common landowner) descent. My mother's family used to own a big farm, encompassing large parts of the area north of Leeds, but lost their farm in murky circumstances in the 30s (my mother claims it was due to "gambling", but I suspect that the Great Depression had something to do with it).

As you may be able to tell, I have rather an interest in history as well. I'm a postgraduate student in medieval history at Leeds University. I'm also interested in politics: I have attended rather a few rallies, most notably the Stop the War Feb 14 march in London (along with over 1m others) and the Make Poverty History march in Edinburgh, where I stewarded. I am also a Simultaneous Policy adopter, and I'm involved in setting up a SimPol Leeds branch.

Glad to see there are people within the GFE (my pet name for the USA... work it out) who understand the very wrrying situation you face, and are continuing the fight of the International Brigade. In the words of John Pilger:

"Some were wise dreamers and some were foolish dreamers, but they understood the nature of fascism, and they saw through the lies ands the deceit and the appeasement.

"They also knew that the true enemy didn't always wear arm bands, and didn't always strut, or command great rallies, but were impeccable English gentlemen who supported ruthless power behind a smokescreen of propaganda that appropriated noble concepts like 'democracy' and 'freedom' and 'our way of life' and 'our values'.

"Does all this sound familiar?"

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Radical Liberal
Nice to meet you, you might want to take this test to see what you are, Socialist and Anarchist are two very diffrent things.

Political Test
POAC
Hi Bob. welcome.
Gadzooks!
Welcome, Bob. Please wipe your feet on the way in. We mustn't have soil in the soup.
bob.appleyard
QUOTE(Radical Liberal @ Wednesday, 14 September 2005, 4:26 am)
Nice to meet you, you might want to take this test to see what you are, Socialist and Anarchist are two very diffrent things.

Political Test
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I know that they are different. But I'm somewhere in between.
BillySHEARS
QUOTE(bob.appleyard @ Tuesday, 13 September 2005, 2:23 pm)
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Bob, I bet you don't drink coffee but take tea and like your toast done on one side!user posted imageuser posted image


~Shears
bob.appleyard
From the US, eh? I bet you're a fundamentalist marmonger who's addicted to Big Macs.

I like coffee, but I prefer tea (milk, no sugar). And toast has to be cooked both sides. Where did you get that one from?
bob.appleyard
Oh, and radical liberal bloke, I tried that test and I kind of disagreed with the process. In order for me to be an anarchist, I would have to strongly agree with "big business is great!" statements, which is not quite what they're about...
BillySHEARS
QUOTE(bob.appleyard @ Saturday, 17 September 2005, 5:59 pm)
From the US, eh? I bet you're a fundamentalist marmonger who's addicted to Big Macs.

I like coffee, but I prefer tea (milk, no sugar). And toast has to be cooked both sides. Where did you get that one from?
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I prefer fish & chips and yes, I'm a MARmonger.user posted image

From Sting!...did you listen to the song? user posted image
Click & listen
bob.appleyard
Well, that's nice to know. No, not a big fan of Sting, myself, I'm afraid.
shoeless
QUOTE(bob.appleyard @ Friday, 23 September 2005, 9:58 am)
Well, that's nice to know. No, not a big fan of Sting, myself, I'm afraid.
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Sting sucks. Welcome Bob. I was born just outside Liverpool.
bob.appleyard
QUOTE(shoeless @ Friday, 23 September 2005, 5:50 pm)
Sting sucks.  Welcome Bob.  I was born just outside Liverpool.
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Oh right, where? I may know it.
shoeless
QUOTE(bob.appleyard @ Friday, 23 September 2005, 11:26 am)
Oh right, where? I may know it.
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My father was in the Air Force. He was stationed at Burtonwood in Warrington. My mother is from Liverpool.
bob.appleyard
Cool, I used to live in Warrington. No connection to the Air Force, though.
Panda
user posted image, Bob.

I like one piece of toast with marmalade and one piece with Marmite; the combo that hits every taste bud. smile.gif
Radical Liberal
If you want to know your political stances try this political test
bob.appleyard
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Oh, and radical liberal bloke, I tried that test and I kind of disagreed with the process. In order for me to be an anarchist, I would have to strongly agree with "big business is great!" statements, which is not quite what they're about...
soon2b
QUOTE(Radical Liberal @ Thursday, 13 October 2005, 2:25 pm)
If you want to know your political stances try this political test
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Thanks alot; now I'm stuck with the distressing news that I'm a goddam socialist.
Gadzooks!
Hey! Socialists are OK. They shoot aristocrats.
bob.appleyard
Looking out for the little guy isn't all that bad!
Seamus
QUOTE(soon2b @ Friday, 14 October 2005, 6:25 pm)
Thanks alot; now I'm stuck with the distressing news that I'm a goddam socialist.


You say that like it's a bad thing...

Some of my best friends are socialists. smile.gif
SheIsTheRefugee
QUOTE(soon2b @ Friday, 14 October 2005, 4:25 pm)
Thanks alot; now I'm stuck with the distressing news that I'm a goddam socialist.
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I got socialist too.
I am living with it though....

Oh and Bob... marry me?
I love a man with an accent and a brain...

I DO, in fact, like Sting. But only one song. Make that two. One from his "The Police" days and one from his single times.... not saying which though...
leftinrightsouth
Hey, it says I'm a socialist as well. And I think I am ok with that fact. I don't like capitalism.

Welcome BOB! (I just typo'd BOOB instead of Bob!! HAHAHA).

Pinget
I got democrat (65% social liberal, 30% permissive). What do you know?
Jeana
QUOTE(Radical Liberal @ Thursday, 13 October 2005, 2:25 pm)
If you want to know your political stances try this political test
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I'm a Socialist too.. blink.gif

And Welcome Bob smile.gif
Radical Liberal
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