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rexateyfor
Heres an interesting site

http://judicial-inc.biz/katrina.htm
Seamus
QUOTE(rexateyfor @ Thursday, 8 September 2005, 6:41 am)
Heres an interesting site

http://judicial-inc.biz/katrina.htm

It certainly is interesting. I knew that it was only a matter of time before someone "uncovered" a Zionist conspiracy. rolleyes.gif blink.gif Who'd have guessed that the Russian Mob figured out a way to muscle into New Orleans with a Hurricane.

I'll admit, there are a few good graphics and photos there. As with many of these sort of sites, there is a grain of truth; there always is. Sadly, this site should come with a warning. Caution: This Site is for gullible Conspiracy Theorists and those without the capacity for critical thought. eek.gif
Gadzooks!
You disregard them with the same superficiality that the right (including the Dems) disregards the left. Pots and kettles. It's called contempt prior to investigation, and is for the intellectually lazy, or those who are invested in the status quo and feel threatened by new information. People who do not want anybody fucking around with their comfort zone. Perhaps this is why the mainstream Republicans and mainstream Democrats think "the Left" is loony. We attempt to make them think critically, and it's just too hard for them. Most of the people of the US have never been taught to think critically. Certainly not in public education. Most of what is known to be factual about bushco right now was wild-eyed conspiracy theory and crackpot rant up until very recently.
rexateyfor
Good point Gadzooks, lets remember it wasnt long ago Skull & Bones was a "conspiracy theory" too. However we need to remain focused on analyzing what it was that can actually proven and sadly many sites mix in a good amount on Info with jsut enough wacked out conspiracy stuff for most people to view it as unbelivable and ultimately disreguard the entire site.

Theres alot of conspiracy facts in our goverments history and we need to remember that when we start thinking something it to unbelivable.

sky of mind
OK, I read this, and though much does make sence, I'm skeptical.

Skeptical means I doubt it, but I'm open to be proven wrong.
And that's how I believe all issues of this sort of nature should be handled.


What I see is a considerable possibility that in the story,
the events have been added into the known story as is very convenient!

Enough is known fact to give it up front credibility.
Other aspects, you have no proof, only supposition.

I don't care how odd it looks, facts are what count!
I don't care how plausable it is, facts are what count!



Reading this it feels kinda like reading the predictions of Nostradamas.
Yeah, I spose you could say that this means that.
But, why didn't this mean that BEFORE it happened?
Seamus
QUOTE(rexateyfor @ Thursday, 8 September 2005, 9:19 am)
Theres alot of conspiracy facts in our goverments history and we need to remember that when we start thinking something it to unbelivable.


I would have given the site extra points if I had seen anything original. I'm sick of seeing nutty "Zionist" conspiracy theorists. They're a dime a dozen. This stuff is out there to shift our attention away. It's to keep our eyes of the ball. It's there to divide and confuse us.
Gadzooks!
Oh. Like Michael Moore, or Cindy Sheehan. Like the things the members of the 9-11 commission are still bringing to light. Just so much noise that clashes with the political agenda of your chosen party as well as the Republicans.
sky of mind
QUOTE(Gadzooks! @ Thursday, 8 September 2005, 12:12 pm)
Oh. Like Michael Moore, or Cindy Sheehan. Like the things the members of the 9-11 commission are still bringing to light. Just so much noise that clashes with the political agenda of your chosen party as well as the Republicans.
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Simmer Zooks.

Just because I might discount some, doesn't mean I discount all!
And as I said. Skeptical, = prove it, and I will hear it!
rexateyfor
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It's there to divide and confuse us


Whats funny is this is exactly how I feel about the left vs right battles

Saying your sick of hearing about zionists is like saying your sick of hearing about Neo-Cons they both are part of the problem and while I dont belive all problems ultimately findthemselves linked to Zionism or Neo-Cons is clear that both these groups have agendas not in the best interest of us and they need to be watched carefully. Granted sometimes people make shit up and blame it on Zionists much like they make shit up and blame it on liberal media.
sky of mind
Look,

If we can't all agree to support and get behind the people with the only infrastruicture in place to realistically fight these people, how the hell are we gonna agree on which conspiracy stories to rally behind, or the specifics of these stories?

He said she said, point fingers at each other, and discuss it till we're blue in the face.
In the mean time, THEY get away with murder!


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Seamus
QUOTE(Gadzooks! @ Thursday, 8 September 2005, 12:12 pm)
Oh. Like Michael Moore, or Cindy Sheehan. Like the things the members of the 9-11 commission are still bringing to light. Just so much noise that clashes with the political agenda of your chosen party as well as the Republicans.


No, not at all like Michael Moore or Cindy Sheehan.

This is the same Zionist Conspiracy Dog and Pony show that's been in circulation with right wing groups from the turn of the twentieth century.

Neo-Cons... they're a different animal. They use the Zionist Conspiracy to their advantage. Accuse Neo-cons of anything and they'll cry Anti-Semitism.

As long as the DLC calls the shots at the Democratic Party I'm skeptical of their motives. Republicans are snakes.


POAC
QUOTE(Gadzooks! @ Thursday, 8 September 2005, 12:12 pm)
Oh. Like Michael Moore, or Cindy Sheehan. Like the things the members of the 9-11 commission are still bringing to light. Just so much noise that clashes with the political agenda of your chosen party as well as the Republicans.
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Are you suggesting that accusing zionist real estate developers blowing up the levees is along the same lines as pointing out the pro Israel factions directing our foreign policy?

If so, that's pretty silly.
Seamus
QUOTE(rexateyfor @ Thursday, 8 September 2005, 12:19 pm)
Whats funny is this is exactly how I feel about the left vs right battles


Change that to Democratic Party Versus Republican Party and I'll agree with you.

QUOTE(rexateyfor @ Thursday, 8 September 2005, 12:19 pm)
Saying your sick of hearing about zionists is like saying your sick of hearing about Neo-Cons they both are part of the problem and while I dont belive all problems ultimately findthemselves linked to Zionism or Neo-Cons is clear that both these groups have agendas not in the best interest of us and they need to be watched carefully.


Once again... Zionists and Neo-Cons are not the same. They may overlap, but they are not the same.

Change Zionist to nutjob Likudniks and I'll agree with you.

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Granted sometimes people make shit up and blame it on Zionists much like they make shit up and blame it on liberal media.


The problem is that first it's Zionists and then it rolls over to become all Jews. That's where I draw the line. Sure it's a knee jerk reaction. But that's where the Zionist conspiracy theories go. Dig deep enough and you'll hear the same shit that's been around since the Middle Ages.

All Christians are not Theonomic Dominionists, all Jews are not Zionists. Just as all liberals are not traitors or communists, nor all conservatives radical fascists.
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