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sky of mind
I have decided to post this seperately (it's in another thread) because I realized how accurately this discribes what we are about here, and what we are trying to do, and how we go about doing it!


"And therefore, all of those for whom authentic transformation has deeply unseated their souls must, I believe, wrestle with the profound moral obligation to shout from the heart-perhaps quietly and gently, with tears of reluctance; perhaps with fierce fire and angry wisdom; perhaps with slow and careful analysis; perhaps by unshakable public example-but authenticity always and absolutely carries a demand and duty: you must speak out, to the best of your ability, and shake the spiritual tree, and shine your headlights into the eyes of the complacent. You must let that radical realization rumble through your veins and rattle those around you.
Alas, if you fail to do so, you are betraying your own authenticity.You are hiding your true estate. You don't want to upset others because you don't want to upset your self. You are acting in bad faith, the taste of a bad infinity.
Because, you see, the alarming fact is that any realization of depth carries a terrible burden: Those who are allowed to see are simultaneously saddled with the obligation to communicate that vision in no uncertain terms. That is the bargain. You were allowed to see the truth under the agreement that you would communicate it to others (that is the ultimate meaning of the bodhisattva vow). And therefore, if you have seen, you simply must speak out. Speak out with compassion, or speak out with angry wisdom, or speak out with skillful means, but speak out you must.
This is truly a terrible burden, a horrible burden, because in anycase there is no room for timidity. The fact that you might be wrong is simply no excuse: you might be right in your communication, and you might be wrong, but that doesn't matter. What does matter, as Kierkegaard so rudely reminded us, is that only by investing and speaking your vision with passion, can the truth, one way or another, finally penetrate the reluctance of the world. If you are right, or if you are wrong, it is only your passion that will force either to be discovered. It is your duty to promote that discovery-either way-and therefore it is your duty to speak your truth with whatever passion and courage you can find in your heart. You must shout, in whatever way you can."

Ken Wilbur
JayHawk
that's wonderful Sky. Merci beaucoup.

In addition to speaking out loud, it helps if we hit the streets every now and then.
MasterMind
I think the problem is fear. We are affriad what ever we do beyond talking will result in civil war. Because the country in split. But one side wants to fight, hell is looking for fights. And the other sides know no amount of talk is going to change this, its loams over their heads like a fierce dark cloud. They know you cant argue or even reason with them, because they just want to fight. The only way they will defend is with a fight.

So ether we can ignore them, like we have been doing, or we can fight them with the best words we can muster. For even to me, is that price to high?
dori
Words are all we have to work with. Feelings and thoughts and words. We have to win against people who have ways to make their words echo through the minds of listeners, and we have to combat those loud, repetitive, erroneous pictures that are painted for the people who don't like to think.

Some of us are fighters too, but many of us would give anything for a world where people get along with each other. Fighting is the nature of those who work to diminish life for anyone they don't feel close to. It takes fighting in the rest of us to not go under along with those who don't appear to care about anything.

Great thoughts, sky! Thank you.


And of course there are the inevitable typos that I usually ignore, but this one was important. Edit for clarity.
JayHawk
Jack Dalton is worth a second look and listen. I've read a couple of his articles and will read more, am now listening to his recent interview on KDVS. Check it out !

http://oldamericancentury.org/daltonbio.htm

P.S. I just love that interviewers voice ----Mmmmmm, soo cool.
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