I am sure that some of you have taken this already but for those of you who haven't, this is a quiz that takes about 10-15 min and it tells you how liberal or conservative you are. Plus, it compares your political ideology to well known figures in history. I am really wondering how liberal the people here are. One thing i recommend if and when you take it, is to really look at the questions and really think about how you feel, not just the knee jerk reaction. I did and my results changed. I will show mine later(i have to go look them up on the old forum i used to use) but in the mean time, play around and post your results. I will be back this evening.
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Sorry for the misspells.
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I'm square in the middle of Libertarian Left!
I'm to the left of Gandhi on the map.
No surprises.
No surprises.
Economic Left/Right: -2.50
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -2.56
Closest to Ghandi in the examples.
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -2.56
Closest to Ghandi in the examples.
The Dalai Lama is right wing as compared to me. 
Forgot about this. Here is me
Socially -1.44
Economic -2.75
Probably closest compared with Clinton but i have no idea.
Socially -1.44
Economic -2.75
Probably closest compared with Clinton but i have no idea.
Economic Left/Right: -5.25
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -6.82
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -6.82
Your political compass
Economic Left/Right: -7.63
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -5.38
Whatever the hell that means.
Economic Left/Right: -7.63
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -5.38
Whatever the hell that means.
| QUOTE (Seamus @ Friday, 22 July 2005, 10:44 am) |
| I'm to the left of Gandhi on the map. No surprises. |
R U a comnist?
I must be part of the radical hard left. 
I wonder where Eisenhower would land?
Economic Left/Right: -10.00
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -8.21
To be fair... Let's look at the present day political spectrum as this test has defined it. Does anyone here remember Freepers and Flying Monkey Wingnuts refering to John Kerry as a Leftist? How many times did we hear Nader referred to as a Leftist?
Look at how this site has the Canadian Political Spectrum defined.
Look at how this site has the British Political Spectrum defined.
They give you a few hallmarks to go by...
And finally here's the International Group...
Does anyone see a pattern? Doesn't it seem odd that most of the international figures that are portrayed as "in the mainsteam" fall in the first quadrant? It seems odd that they're Positive/Positive. I think that this is not by accident.
Two Dimensional Political Maps can be misleading.
Check this Site out...
Positive & Negative Liberties in Three Dimensions
And finally there is quite a bit of information here on defining the polical spectrum.
Encyclopedia: Political spectrum (at Nationmaster.com)
Here's just a sample...
I wonder where Eisenhower would land?
Economic Left/Right: -10.00
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -8.21
To be fair... Let's look at the present day political spectrum as this test has defined it. Does anyone here remember Freepers and Flying Monkey Wingnuts refering to John Kerry as a Leftist? How many times did we hear Nader referred to as a Leftist?
Look at how this site has the Canadian Political Spectrum defined.
Look at how this site has the British Political Spectrum defined.
They give you a few hallmarks to go by...
And finally here's the International Group...
Does anyone see a pattern? Doesn't it seem odd that most of the international figures that are portrayed as "in the mainsteam" fall in the first quadrant? It seems odd that they're Positive/Positive. I think that this is not by accident.
Two Dimensional Political Maps can be misleading.
Check this Site out...
Positive & Negative Liberties in Three Dimensions
And finally there is quite a bit of information here on defining the polical spectrum.
Encyclopedia: Political spectrum (at Nationmaster.com)
Here's just a sample...
| QUOTE |
| Historical origin of the terms The terms Left and Right to refer to political affiliation originated early in the French Revolutionary era, and referred originally to the seating arrangements in the various legislative bodies of France. The aristocracy sat on the right of the Speaker (traditionally the seat of honor) and the commoners sat on the Left, hence the terms Right-wing politics and Left-wing politics. The period of the French Revolution is very important in the history of France and the world. ... This is a glossary of the French Revolution. ... In politics, right-wing, the political right, or simply the Right, are terms which refer, with no particular precision, to the segment of the political spectrum in opposition to left-wing politics. ... In politics, left-wing, political left, leftism, or simply the left, are terms that refer (with no particular precision) to the segment of the political spectrum typically associated with any of several strains of socialism, social democracy, or liberalism (especially but not exclusively in the American sense of the word... Originally, the defining point on the ideological spectrum was the ancien régime ("old order"). "The Right" thus implied support for aristocratic or royal interests, and the church, while "The Left" implied opposition to the same. Because the political franchise at the start of the revolution was relatively narrow, the original "Left" represented mainly the interests of the bourgeoisie, the rising capitalist class. At that time, support for laissez-faire capitalism and Free markets were counted as being on the left; today in most Western countries these views would be characterized as being on the Right. |
I hope that this leads to a better understanding of what left and right is and how it can be misleading.
| QUOTE (Seamus @ Friday, 22 July 2005, 10:44 am) |
| I'm to the left of Gandhi on the map. No surprises. |
| QUOTE (Panda @ Saturday, 23 July 2005, 6:19 pm) |
| R U a comnist? |
What do mean by that Tovarich?
Comnist be an overused misleading term.
BTW... Wasn't Jesus a Communist?
| QUOTE (Seamus @ Friday, 22 July 2005, 11:44 am) |
| I'm to the left of Gandhi on the map. No surprises. |
LOL Me, too!
Economic Left/Right: -6.13
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -6.38
No surprise to me. I'm with Nelson Mandela and pretty close to the Dalai Lama and Seamus. Not bad company.
Economic Left/Right: -8.88
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -6.15
Economic Left/Right: -8.88
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -6.15
| QUOTE (shoeless @ Saturday, 23 July 2005, 8:49 pm) |
| No surprise to me. I'm with Nelson Mandela and pretty close to the Dalai Lama and Seamus. Not bad company. Economic Left/Right: -8.88 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -6.15 |
Wow!
According to the test I'm among some pretty heady company!
Seamus and Shoeless no less!
Thanks Guys! I feel special!
| QUOTE (shoeless @ Saturday, 23 July 2005, 8:49 pm) |
| No surprise to me. I'm with Nelson Mandela and pretty close to the Dalai Lama and Seamus. Not bad company. |
Son of a bitch Shoeless... I damn near peed myself laughing when I saw that new "Mayberry Machiavellis" signature of yours...
BTW... The Dalai Lama's a cool dude. Mandela stood up for what he believed in. They're not bad folks to admire.
I don't wear robes or dashikis. I'm not sure if I'd fit in based on their fashion sense.
| QUOTE (Seamus @ Saturday, 23 July 2005, 4:24 pm) |
| I wonder where Eisenhower would land? |
Thanks, Seamus, good question. And excellent analysis. This test is definitely a framing mechanism, if not a political frame-up.
Anything that defines Ghandi, the Dalai Lama, and all progressives as being somewhere between Communists and Anarchists, is definitely whacked. I know that's where Jesus would be, and I don't think they even had Communism and Anarchism in those days.
Economic Left/Right: -4.63
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -4.72
Not quite as far down as I thought I would be. I expected to be in, like, Seamus level.
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -4.72
Not quite as far down as I thought I would be. I expected to be in, like, Seamus level.
| QUOTE (Panda @ Saturday, 23 July 2005, 6:05 pm) |
| Your political compass Economic Left/Right: -7.63 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -5.38 Whatever the hell that means. |
I suppose I could rail at you for being right wing! (as compared to me that is!)
Bwahahahahaha!
According to that test I should be starting a commune in the near future.
you are all a bunch of left wing, liberal extreamist here. Why don't you pass the bong, you dirty hippies.
| QUOTE (JackD @ Saturday, 23 July 2005, 9:21 pm) |
| you are all a bunch of left wing, liberal extreamist here. Why don't you pass the bong, you dirty hippies. |
How dare you!
As it turns out I'm quite conservative.
We should report the people with far left leanings to Homeland Security right away.
TIPS time.
Anyone in the lower left quadrant is a suspect.
SinUnNombre:
Economic Left/Right: -4.63
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -4.72
Shoeless:
Economic Left/Right: -8.88
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -6.15
Pretzels:
Economic Left/Right: -6.13
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -6.38
Seamus:
Economic Left/Right: -10.00
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -8.21
AntiFlagWaver
Economic Left/Right: -2.50
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -2.56
JackD
Socially -1.44
Economic -2.75
Jayhawk:
Economic Left/Right: -5.25
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -6.82
Here are a couple of charts that may shed some light on the complexities of political thought.
It's enough to make a binary thinker's head explode.
It's enough to make a binary thinker's head explode.
| QUOTE (Panda @ Saturday, 23 July 2005, 10:48 pm) |
| How dare you! As it turns out I'm quite conservative. We should report the people with far left leanings to Homeland Security right away. TIPS time. Anyone in the lower left quadrant is a suspect. SinUnNombre: Economic Left/Right: -4.63 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -4.72 Shoeless: Economic Left/Right: -8.88 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -6.15 Pretzels: Economic Left/Right: -6.13 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -6.38 Seamus: Economic Left/Right: -10.00 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -8.21 AntiFlagWaver Economic Left/Right: -2.50 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -2.56 JackD Socially -1.44 Economic -2.75 Jayhawk: Economic Left/Right: -5.25 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -6.82 |
That's why yer the POAC cop,
and we're out here lookin for a party!
Catch me if you can!
BTW
Sky of Mind:
Economic Left/Right: -8.38
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -5.85
| QUOTE (JackD @ Saturday, 23 July 2005, 10:21 pm) |
| you are all a bunch of left wing, liberal extreamist here. Why don't you pass the bong, you dirty hippies. |
Damn you running imperialist lacky pig!
No free love for you!
| QUOTE (Panda @ Saturday, 23 July 2005, 10:48 pm) |
| How dare you! As it turns out I'm quite conservative. |
I knew you were the weak link in the glorious revolution!
| QUOTE (Panda) |
| We should report the people with far left leanings to Homeland Security right away. TIPS time. |
Anything for a buck. Go for it!
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On a serious note now...
| QUOTE (Panda) |
| Anyone in the lower left quadrant is a suspect. |
That's what I was thinking. Folkie called it a frame-up and I think he hit the nail right square on the head.
We pose a threat to "Economic Freedom". Isn't that really an Orwellian Euphemism for exploitation by the wealthy?
The political spectrum is a very complicated and diverse thing.
This whole exercise brings to mind something that (I'm pretty sure) Noam Chomsky articulated... That is, that the media's purpose is to set the limits for acceptable debate. Remember how I noted how the "mainstream" on their chart all fell in the first quadrant as X Positive/Y Positive?
| QUOTE |
| That's what I was thinking. Folkie called it a frame-up and I think he hit the nail right square on the head. We pose a threat to "Economic Freedom". Isn't that really an Orwellian Euphemism for exploitation by the wealthy? The political spectrum is a very complicated and diverse thing. This whole exercise brings to mind something that (I'm pretty sure) Noam Chomsky articulated... That is, that the media's purpose is to set the limits for acceptable debate. Remember how I noted how the "mainstream" on their chart all fell in the first quadrant as X Positive/Y Positive? |
I had noticed along the lines of framing, that if one simply turned the graph over, we could make all us left wing conspirators onto posative posative.
You don't spose that's simply a koinkidink do ya?
| QUOTE (Seamus @ Saturday, 23 July 2005, 10:08 pm) |
| Here are a couple of charts that may shed some light on the complexities of political thought. It's enough to make a binary thinker's head explode. |
I will go for left leaning college state. I think that is my state of mind right now, you dirty liberal.
| QUOTE (JackD @ Saturday, 23 July 2005, 11:40 pm) |
| I will go for left leaning college state. I think that is my state of mind right now, you dirty liberal. |
Hey... I'm not dirty... I just took a bath in refreshing ideology.
Is it just me or does this poster smack of Right Wing Repressed Latent Homoeroticism?
Economic Left/Right: -1.75
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -7.85
Yikes, I'm a right-winger compared to some of you guys!
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -7.85
Yikes, I'm a right-winger compared to some of you guys!
I guess I'm smackdab in the middle, mainstream of our group on this thread.
-6.88 Economic Left/Right
-5.23 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian
-IC
-6.88 Economic Left/Right
-5.23 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian
-IC
Interesting. Mostly males took this quiz.
| QUOTE (Panda @ Monday, 25 July 2005, 10:55 am) |
| Interesting. Mostly males took this quiz. |
Panda, you sexist pig!
So what do you spose it means?
| QUOTE (Panda @ Monday, 25 July 2005, 10:55 am) |
| Interesting. Mostly males took this quiz. |
| QUOTE (sky of mind @ Monday, 25 July 2005, 11:01 am) |
| Panda, you sexist pig! So what do you spose it means? |
Women know their place?
Sorry, this computer can't do links. I took this a couple of years ago though and came out to the right and under Ghandi. Afraid you guys are stuck with the little old lady that makes waves on the board.
Tough luck.
Tough luck.
| QUOTE (dori @ Monday, 25 July 2005, 8:50 pm) |
| Afraid you guys are stuck with the little old lady that makes waves on the board. Tough luck. |
waves are an important part of universal life. Waves and vibrations.
I'd rather put up with with you any day of my life ....compared to ....oops, she's coming.
LOL
You are so kind gallant sir!
You are so kind gallant sir!
| QUOTE (dori @ Monday, 25 July 2005, 9:41 pm) |
| LOL You are so kind gallant sir! |
oh, how you say gallant.....reminds me of the days when wayward crusadres returned home in time for the feast. Jubile, dance, wine and song. Noble speeches. Loose breeches.
Oh, oh!
The Raving Marxist checks in;
The Political Compass
Economic Left/Right: -6.63
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -7.95
Libertarian/Authoritarian - They're calling us Commies into domination and pain, Panda.
Lick my boots Comrade! haha
If one is inclined. go back and look at the way the questions are worded and how they are scored to yield a result colored by a milquetoast bias. It's not hard to discern. Perhaps the omission of a choice for "neutral" is a flaw as well.
On the other hand I'd hate to word let alone design and qualify such a survey.
The Political Compass
Economic Left/Right: -6.63
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -7.95
Libertarian/Authoritarian - They're calling us Commies into domination and pain, Panda.
Lick my boots Comrade! haha
If one is inclined. go back and look at the way the questions are worded and how they are scored to yield a result colored by a milquetoast bias. It's not hard to discern. Perhaps the omission of a choice for "neutral" is a flaw as well.
On the other hand I'd hate to word let alone design and qualify such a survey.
| QUOTE (Dave @ Tuesday, 26 July 2005, 2:50 am) |
| If one is inclined. go back and look at the way the questions are worded and how they are scored to yield a result colored by a milquetoast bias. It's not hard to discern. Perhaps the omission of a choice for "neutral" is a flaw as well. |
Those were my issues with the test.
How did they come up with center? Whose definition did they use?
My problem with labels, especially when listening to wingnut flying monkeys, is that the center is defined so far to the right that Barry Goldwater would be a liberal. When you look at it that way calling someone a leftist, socialist, liberal or a Marxist is ludicrous. It has no meaning.
| QUOTE (Dave @ Tuesday, 26 July 2005, 2:50 am) |
| The Raving Marxist checks in |
Dave? You, a Marxist? Nah...
An evil leebrul perhaps, but you're no Marxist.
Oh, I forgot... FDR was a raging Socialist!
| QUOTE (Seamus @ Tuesday, 26 July 2005, 7:28 am) |
| Dave? You, a Marxist? Nah... An evil leebrul perhaps, but you're no Marxist. Oh, I forgot... FDR was a raging Socialist! |
I'm with you, Seamus. Labels are bullshit and reflect the unfortunate inclination most people have to pigenhole ideas regardless of accuracy. We must have order donchaknow!
This is what I am;
I oppose Tyranny.
I oppose Corruption.
I am for equal justice and opportunity.
I also believe that just as slavery was the fiction that a person could be property, a corporation is a fiction that property can be a person.
I believe in the golden rule and minding your own business.
Questions?
I'm with Dave and Dave's with Seamus. Seamus is with ......never mind. The test was biased, clearly. The same test in German, written by a Communist would be just as biased but with the centre off to the bottom left. It was fun any old how. You people amaze me.....you bring a smile to my face.
| QUOTE (Dave @ Tuesday, 26 July 2005, 9:28 am) |
| I oppose Tyranny. I oppose Corruption. I am for equal justice and opportunity. I also believe that just as slavery was the fiction that a person could be property, a corporation is a fiction that property can be a person. I believe in the golden rule and minding your own business. Questions? |
Nope. But if I ever have any you're the one I'll ask. Anyone who can sum up the entirety of human wisdom in 50 words or less is guru enough for me.
Your political compass
Economic Left/Right: -6.50
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -5.33
Thought I was moderate, oh well.
Eh...I would rather stand here with you guys (Including Sky!) then with the top right corner guys any day of the week.
Economic Left/Right: -6.50
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -5.33
Thought I was moderate, oh well.
Eh...I would rather stand here with you guys (Including Sky!) then with the top right corner guys any day of the week.
Economic Left/Right: -7.75
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -5.69
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -5.69
It's scary to see how close Bush is to Adolph Hitler. THey really aren't that far apart.
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| QUOTE (Legato_Bluesummers @ Tuesday, 26 July 2005, 4:56 pm) |
| It's scary to see how close Bush is to Adolph Hitler. THey really aren't that far apart. |
I think that if Bush and Osama Bin Laden were both on the chart, you'd only see one of them because they'd be in the same exact spot.
| QUOTE (folkie @ Tuesday, 26 July 2005, 7:32 pm) |
| I think that if Bush and Osama Bin Laden were both on the chart, you'd only see one of them because they'd be in the same exact spot. |
I'm not so sure about that Folkster.
Osama has an ideology. It's way fucked up, but still an ideology.
Bush is about personal power and influence. (the bully)
Then again, I spose that's an ideology too!
| QUOTE (sky of mind @ Tuesday, 26 July 2005, 5:50 pm) |
| I'm not so sure about that Folkster. Osama has an ideology. It's way fucked up, but still an ideology. Bush is about personal power and influence. (the bully) Then again, I spose that's an ideology too! |
Okay, I'm wrong. I didn't realize the chart distinguished between seeking personal power and influence, tribal power and influence, national power and influence, religious power and influence, or corporate power and influence.
I just thought control freaks were control freaks. My bad.
| QUOTE (folkie @ Tuesday, 26 July 2005, 8:23 pm) |
| I just thought control freaks were control freaks. My bad. |
You've just described the Conservative Mindset.
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