Not to worry, Sky. I'm a law abidin' easygoing peaceful kinda guy. And I'll try to stay that way unless someone here pulls a "gun" and starts "shooting" at me first. I hope that never comes to pass.

Well, thanks for the welcome, I think. You're the admin here so that gives you the right to make the rules. Does this mean that I can't disagree with your or anyone else's viewpoints? I just want to clarify that so I know exactly where I stand. Please let me know if my mostly conservative views are frowned upon here. If that's the case, I'll hit the road and find friendlier surroundings. I definitely don't want to be where I and my viewpoints are not wanted.

Of course not. But don't act surprised or play the victim if they aren't recieved well.

You've come to an anti-corruption progressive/liberal discussion forum. Do you think your conservative views will be frowned upon?

As I said before:
Propagandists and apologists aren't welcome here. Sincere social and economic conservatives are.

POAC, I don't expect my viewpoints to be thought of and received as the greatest thing since sliced bread. But as long as I get a modicum of respect for having them, I can handle most anything that comes my way. This ain't my first forum by any means. I've been doing the internet thing for close to 10 years and I've also been the webmaster of 3 websites for about 4 years now. So I'm hip to the dos and don'ts of internet and forum etiquette.

Well then, I consider myself welcomed since I mostly fit the latter description you gave. I'm looking forward to having some interesting discussions with you and the rest of the gang here.

So, you consider part of the former to be an accurate description? If that's the case you're in for some rough sailing.

We have to deal with the wingnut lies 24/7. They are unceasing, relentless and pervasive. They corrupt and mislead the nation. Really, we don't need them parroted here. It makes us feel very disgusted and makes you look very sick.

Don't disgust Dave. The consequences can be too horrible to mention. And POAC, don't even go there, he'll have your hide on the front page.

That being said, let's see where you stand. How about going to another sub forum here and post up what it is that makes you identify as a conservative and why. This is for introductions and is not a sandbox for conservatives real and imagined to dominate and monoplolize for purposes honest and otherwise.

Thanks.

Thanks, JayHawk. I believe that I will come on in and rest a spell. Is there cold lemonade here?

BYOL.
What are you resting from in here with a buncha Libruls?
Not getting the FACTS anywhere else?
I don't know many non-Liberals who can handle the truth.

Panda, this is just one of many forums which I post at. I like to read and digest all points of view from all sides whenever possible. What's the point of hanging around with only like-minded people? After all, variety is the spice of life. I try to listen and learn from all sorts of people. As far as I'm concerned, that's the true path to knowledge. Like my sig line says, "There are always three sides to every story: your side, the other side, and the truth". I believe that.

Where else do you post?
I like to read other views too.
Links?
Thanks.

Panda, ask and ye shall receive. Here are a few of my preferred forums:

http://liberalforum.org/

http://www.usmessageboard.com/

http://www.alternet.org/discuss/

http://www.thegulch.net

http://www.rightnation.us/

I also post at DU from time to time.

King, I don't spend a whole lot of time at DU. I probably make about 5 or posts or so a week. I don't hide the fact that I'm conservative when I do post and I play by their rules as much as possible. Maybe that's why they haven't kicked my ass to the curb yet. Either that or maybe they need to keep a conservative whipping boy around! Of course, there are lots of loonies there but there is also a bunch of reasonable folks who tend to balance things out a wee bit.

What's your handle at DU?

Panda, if you don't mind, I'd rather not say. I'm a bit anal retentive when it comes to my privacy on the internet just like many other security minded people. No offense, but I don't know you so I don't take any chances. Sorry.

No problem.
I totally understand.

That's a great idea, Dave.
How about it, Winged One?
Land that baby outside the Welcome Forum.

Anal retentive? I don't understand, how would that be applicable to your handle on DU? Your "privacy"? Do you use your real name there? No, I sorta doubt that, haha.

There is little privacy on the internet, and it is good to be security conscious, but, I really don't understand how giving us your handle there, or at any of the other boards you post at could in any way compromise your 'privacy'.

I think it would be the gentlemanly thing to do, afterall, if you intend to engage in debate, you have the advantage. How so? Well, for one, you have our entire posting histories at your fingertips through the search function. You? You're a clean slate to us.

Surely you can see the inherently unfair arrangement that is and I don't thnk you would wish unfair advantage. Having oppositional research at your fingertips allows you to assess all of our individual strengths and weaknesses while we have no such tool at our disposal.

I suspect that's the real reason you don't wish to divulge, you'll be giving up an advantage I am sure you're aware of.

Frankly, your stated reason doesn't hold water. You need to share.

Interesting. You perhaps speak for Wiseguy now?
Why would he be kicked off DU if we knew his handle?
How exactly could anyone here do that?
There are no DU mods at this forum.
Wiseguy must have ulterior motives to be so secretive.
He has something to hide. What is it?

Dave is absolutely correct.
It's not fair that Wiseguy flies under the radar while we're an open book.
Let's even up the playing field, shall we? I want that handle.
Anything less is cheating on Wiseguy's part.

Doug, how does your statement apply considering wiseguy 'doesn't hide the fact that he is conservetive'?

In fact, wiseguy, if conservatives are not allowed to post at DU, how do you manage to have 5 or so posts a week there?

Dave, I don't know you or anyone here in the slightest. And I don't know your motives. If I gave you or anyone else my handles on other forums, it would be possible to obtain personal info about me that I wish to keep private. So, sorry if my stated reason doesn't satisfy you or Panda or anyone else here. It stands as stated. Unless you can show me a forum rule that I and all other members MUST share our personal info with everyone here, you'll have to be satisfied with my explanation. I prefer to remain a "clean slate" for now. Call me paranoid or whatever but that's my choice, sorry.

You bring up the issue of the "gentlemanly thing to do". I see a lot of insults and personal attacks flying around on this forum. Do you consider that to be the "gentlemanly thing to do"? You also claim that it's "unfair" to have an advantage in a debate. How so? I did some formal debating in high school. I don't recall any protocol that insisted that opponents in a debate must share or disclose everything they have on their side. Isn't gaining an legal advantage what it's all about in any debate or competition like sports, for example? After I post enough times on this forum, you should be able to easily discern my strengths and weaknesses.

Easy to do, Dori. All you have to do is play strictly by their rules and not be a troll. I'm not there to disrupt the forum or bait or antagonize anyone. I'm there simply to learn from others and to add a thought or two of my own from time to time.

Thanks, TheStripey1. I be somewhere in the far western part of the country. How's 'bout you?

I did the military thing (Navy) from 1967 to 1971. Spent most of the time making WestPac cruises between Pearl Harbor and the Orient. Getting drunk and chasing skirts was my main job. Also made some Market Time patrols off of Nam in late '67, early '68. How's 'bout you?

I take it that you like tigers, huh?

<whislting>....<looking around>....the right wing count down begins...Hey Popeye... I mean Wiseguy...how ya doing....

Doc

waves buhbye to wise guy...

Yeah stripey, yeah...

Doc

REMF? Ha ha! I haven't heard that in years. You're right, there was no such animal as a rear echelon motherf*cker in Nam in those bad old days. The closest I got to going in country was the one day that I spent cruising up and down the Mekong riding a PBR with the "brown water" Navy guys.

No Saigon Tea for me. I was addicted to the black mud that was Navy coffee. You had to let it brew for a day or so to get it real good and strong. The stuff was so strong that a spoon could almost stand straight up in the cup! That shit would keep you awake for days at a time! That was a good thing because overseas in a liberty port, there was no time to sleep!

In the movie Apocalypse Now, there was a scene with a tiger in the jungle. Didja ever see one over there? If so, is that why you use a tiger as an avatar?

Reminds me to ask all of us to be careful about accusations.


One bad accusation can damage the credibility of all good accusations!
Not to mention that of this forum.

There's absolutely nothing wrong with being suspcious. Especially when you begin to see a pattern in posting styles.

Maybe the riggers saw them.

One of by buddies swears up and down that he'd see them from his Huey; that was over Jungle.

Do tigers fly f-4s? Or do they prefer Thuds?

Me too, Doc. Me too.


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