For about a week now, I have been trying to figure out which presidents belong in the top 5. I can only ones that i can think of so far are
Lincoln
roosevelt
roosevelt
Who do you think are the top 5?
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Lincoln
Roosevelt 2
Roosevelt 1
Kennedy
Carter
Jefferson, Adams 1, Washington.
Roosevelt 2
Roosevelt 1
Kennedy
Carter
Jefferson, Adams 1, Washington.
1. FDR
2. Jefferson
3. Wilson
4. Lincoln
5. T. Roosevelt
2. Jefferson
3. Wilson
4. Lincoln
5. T. Roosevelt
BEST
1.FDR
2.Lincoln
3.Kennedy
4.Jefferson
5.T. Roosevelt
WORST:
1. George W. Bush
2. George H.W. Bush
3. Richard Nixon
4. Andrew Jackson
5. Warren G. Harding
I know you didn't ask for the worst, but I included it, anyway.
Catherine
1.FDR
2.Lincoln
3.Kennedy
4.Jefferson
5.T. Roosevelt
WORST:
1. George W. Bush
2. George H.W. Bush
3. Richard Nixon
4. Andrew Jackson
5. Warren G. Harding
I know you didn't ask for the worst, but I included it, anyway.
Catherine
BEST
1. Jefferson
2. FDR
3. Kennedy
4. T. Roosevelt
5. Hillary 2008
WORST
1. GeorgeII
2. Johnson
3. Nixon
4. Reagan
5. Jefferson Davis
People call Lincoln a hero. He said "All men are created equal." and fought to free the slaves. Meanwhile, entire tribes of Native Americans were being slaughtered in their homeland. What did Lincoln do for them? Why were they excluded from "all men"?
1. Jefferson
2. FDR
3. Kennedy
4. T. Roosevelt
5. Hillary 2008
WORST
1. GeorgeII
2. Johnson
3. Nixon
4. Reagan
5. Jefferson Davis
People call Lincoln a hero. He said "All men are created equal." and fought to free the slaves. Meanwhile, entire tribes of Native Americans were being slaughtered in their homeland. What did Lincoln do for them? Why were they excluded from "all men"?
Did you know that shortly after signing the emancipation proclamation Lincoln signed a military order to exterminate a large band of Indians peacefully camped on the (I think) Powder River?
He also had newspaper editors imprisoned for writing articles critical of him during the war.
How come nobody has mentioned Jefferson?
and Grant would go in my list of worst. Uber corrupt. He was with the railroads like Bush is to oil. Big fat racist drunk Indian killer.
He also had newspaper editors imprisoned for writing articles critical of him during the war.
How come nobody has mentioned Jefferson?
and Grant would go in my list of worst. Uber corrupt. He was with the railroads like Bush is to oil. Big fat racist drunk Indian killer.
| QUOTE (sky of mind @ Saturday, 23 April 2005, 10:57 pm) |
| Lincoln Roosevelt 2 Roosevelt 1 Kennedy Carter Jefferson, Adams 1, Washington. |
i agree except i'd put clinton where carter is...
-t-
1 FDR
2 Jefferson
3 JFK
4 Washington
5 T. Roosevelt
Worst
1 W
2 Hoover
3 Satan ... err Nixon
4 Ray-Gun
5 Wison
Honorable mention for Lincoln, you know the Emancipation Proclamation didn't free all the slaves, it freed the slaves of confederate states. It had little to do with equality and a lot to do with punishing the for the War.
2 Jefferson
3 JFK
4 Washington
5 T. Roosevelt
Worst
1 W
2 Hoover
3 Satan ... err Nixon
4 Ray-Gun
5 Wison
Honorable mention for Lincoln, you know the Emancipation Proclamation didn't free all the slaves, it freed the slaves of confederate states. It had little to do with equality and a lot to do with punishing the for the War.
nobody mentions andrew jackson as one of the worst- the similarities between andy and W are striking-
both imbeciles-
my worst prezzies:
1) W
2) Nixon
3) Jackson
4) Adams 2
5) Reagan
-t-
both imbeciles-
my worst prezzies:
1) W
2) Nixon
3) Jackson
4) Adams 2
5) Reagan
-t-
| QUOTE (POAC @ Sunday, 24 April 2005, 7:53 am) |
| Did you know that shortly after signing the emancipation proclamation Lincoln signed a military order to exterminate a large band of Indians peacefully camped on the (I think) Powder River? |
Lincoln ordered the largest mass execution (38 at once) in the history of the Divided States. Many historians believe those executed were innocent and that it was a show to make the settlers feel safer. I don't know if this is the same incident you're referring to, but this was in Minnesota.
http://news.minnesota.publicradio.org/feat..._steilm_1862-m/
Andrew Jackson's administration passed the Indian Removal Act in 1830 and then in the 1860's the Lincoln admin used the Removal Act to authorize Kit Carson to oversee the Long Walk of the Navajos.
In 1864, after Chief Black Kettle surrendered in an effort to keep peace, Colonel John Chivington and around 700 other massacred hundreds of Cheyennes at Sand Creek.
In 1865, because the 5 Civilized Tribes supported the South during the war, the government declared all treaties with these tribes void and began taking more land away from them.
My five worst, not in any order
1. George W.
-We all know why
2. Coolidge
-Member of the KKK, while in the white house.
3. Buchanan
-Did nothing to stop the civil war
4.Hoover
-Great Depression
5. Grant
-Corrupt
Also, I found an intresting website
Click Here
1. George W.
-We all know why
2. Coolidge
-Member of the KKK, while in the white house.
3. Buchanan
-Did nothing to stop the civil war
4.Hoover
-Great Depression
5. Grant
-Corrupt
Also, I found an intresting website
Click Here
Isn't it interesting how no single leader of this country is or was a saint?
Shouldn't their greatness be judged by what the country became or what it represented because of their actions?
Lincoln and some of his actions were 100 years ahead of their time.
Clearly he was a great leader. But he also made some monster mistakes.
Hopefully history and all of America learns from these mistakes.
Hopefully, that's what being a progressive is all about!
Bushco will be similarly judged.
The bar has been set to a new low.
This will forever be a part of the American History.
Just as the genocide of native americans is.
Question is, what will we learn from it?
Shouldn't their greatness be judged by what the country became or what it represented because of their actions?
Lincoln and some of his actions were 100 years ahead of their time.
Clearly he was a great leader. But he also made some monster mistakes.
Hopefully history and all of America learns from these mistakes.
Hopefully, that's what being a progressive is all about!
Bushco will be similarly judged.
The bar has been set to a new low.
This will forever be a part of the American History.
Just as the genocide of native americans is.
Question is, what will we learn from it?
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| nobody mentions andrew jackson as one of the worst- the similarities between andy and W are striking- |
Hey, tam...go back and read my list of the worst. Only today, I'd put Jackson right under Dumbya.
| QUOTE |
| Andrew Jackson's administration passed the Indian Removal Act in 1830 |
Cherokee Chief Junaluska, fighting with Jackson against the Creeks, saved Jackson's life. After Jackson became president and sent the Cherokees to Oklahoma on the Trail of Tears, Junaluska said he wished he had the day of the Creek battle to live over again.
He would kill Jackson himself rather than save his life.
Catherine
| QUOTE (Catherine @ Sunday, 24 April 2005, 2:18 pm) |
| Hey, tam...go back and read my list of the worst. Only today, I'd put Jackson right under Dumbya. Catherine |
oops! SORRY!
hey, great minds think alike though...
-t-
What, Bush isn't among the top 5? You must be a terrorist. ( 
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Best:
Thomas Jefferson (1st Democratic President; restored freedoms taken away by John Adams, see Alien and Sedition Act)
FDR (no explaination necessary)
Woodrow Wilson (instituted anti-trust and labor laws)
TR (began anti-trust reform and national parks)
James Madison ("Father of the Constitution"; President during British invasion of 1812)
Worst:
George W. Bush (evil incarnate)
John Adams (the George W. Bush of his time, see Alien and Sedition Act)
Andrew Johnson (allowed carpetbagging in the south after Civil War)
Ronald Reagan (massive deficits to feed the military industrial complex, while increased hunger and poverty)
Richard Nixon (burglar, Vietnam)
"In every country and in every age, the priest has been
hostile to liberty. He is always in alliance with the
despot, abetting his abuses in return for protection
to his own"
Thomas Jefferson, 1814
"I hope we shall crush in its birth the aristocracy of our moneyed
corporations, which dare already to challenge our government to a
trial of strength and bid
defiance to the laws of our country."
Thomas Jefferson, 1812
Source:Liberty Quotes
Thomas Jefferson (1st Democratic President; restored freedoms taken away by John Adams, see Alien and Sedition Act)
FDR (no explaination necessary)
Woodrow Wilson (instituted anti-trust and labor laws)
TR (began anti-trust reform and national parks)
James Madison ("Father of the Constitution"; President during British invasion of 1812)
Worst:
George W. Bush (evil incarnate)
John Adams (the George W. Bush of his time, see Alien and Sedition Act)
Andrew Johnson (allowed carpetbagging in the south after Civil War)
Ronald Reagan (massive deficits to feed the military industrial complex, while increased hunger and poverty)
Richard Nixon (burglar, Vietnam)
"In every country and in every age, the priest has been
hostile to liberty. He is always in alliance with the
despot, abetting his abuses in return for protection
to his own"
Thomas Jefferson, 1814
"I hope we shall crush in its birth the aristocracy of our moneyed
corporations, which dare already to challenge our government to a
trial of strength and bid
defiance to the laws of our country."
Thomas Jefferson, 1812
Source:Liberty Quotes
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