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sky of mind
http://nynerd.com/can-you-see-jesus/
seuss
While that is pretty f*cked up,
check out this guy in the comments:

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Oh my gosh this is sick God died for you and you do this to repay him whoever did this has a very sick mind! This is very immaure i will pray that somehow God works in your life.


come on man... you seem pretty confused.
It's Nietzsche OR God... pick one and shut up.
Libertas
Bwahahahaha!

Why do religious people have absolutely no sense of humor?
Boot
Tasteless and crude, but I'm not going to go on a rampage. If you were religious you might grasp better why it's so offensive to people though.


QUOTE (Libertas @ Saturday, 11 October 2008, 2:21 pm) *
Bwahahahaha!

Why do religious people have absolutely no sense of humor?


I resent that. bawling.gif
sky of mind
hey, if you can see jesus in a fried cheese sandwich, or a corn flake, why not on a dogs butt?
Aren't they both normal, everyday things in gods dominion?


I find it amusing on two fronts.
One, that ANY random collection if lines and shadings can be construed to be some sort of sign,
two, that people actually get emotional about it.

Or is absolutely everything symbolic of something else?
Religous conspiracy theory? tinfoilhat.gif
Boot
I think setting up a shrine to a vague image on a frito is equally tasteless.
sky of mind
QUOTE (Boot @ Monday, 13 October 2008, 11:33 am) *
I think setting up a shrine to a vague image on a frito is equally tasteless.



Yep, and I think that's the point here.
Well, that and noticing how indignant some people become over something so silly and trivial.
Boot
QUOTE (sky of mind @ Monday, 13 October 2008, 1:38 pm) *
Yep, and I think that's the point here.
Well, that and noticing how indignant some people become over something so silly and trivial.


Like I said, I find it tasteless, but I'm not going to lose sleep over it. I'll just roll my eyes and move on. rolleyes.gif
soon2b
As a general matter, I think that the left's willingness to allow themselves to be overly and wrongly identified with condescending and mean-spirited non-believers doesn't serve us well. Bill Maher's movie comes to mind. What's the point in offending those who might otherwise share one's political and philosophical beliefs by mocking them? They seem to have an attitude of being the only truly intelligent people on the planet and that they're providing a public service by pointing out how stupid they think the rest of us are for not sharing their disbelief.
sky of mind
QUOTE (soon2b @ Monday, 13 October 2008, 12:52 pm) *
As a general matter, I think that the left's willingness to allow themselves to be overly and wrongly identified with condescending and mean-spirited non-believers doesn't serve us well. Bill Maher's movie comes to mind. What's the point in offending those who might otherwise share one's political and philosophical beliefs by mocking them? They seem to have an attitude of being the only truly intelligent people on the planet and that they're providing a public service by pointing out how stupid they think the rest of us are for not sharing their disbelief.



What's wrong with calling a spade just what it is?
"They" have no issue callis us all their bad names for people that don't see it as they do,
what's the issue if "we" do the tit for tat?

As pointed on on another thread, simply ignoring it when you get slammed, does not make it go away!

IMO, the loud religous types bring the Mahers on them selves, and the rest wind up suffering along with them.
If the turn teh other cheekers would follow theior own advice, the Bill Mahers of the world would feel much less need to respond. We currently live in a society that has shifted largely to the right, and a large part of that shift was caused by the religous right wing. Should we all be quiet and ignore what's happened?
soon2b
QUOTE (sky of mind @ Monday, 13 October 2008, 6:11 pm) *
We currently live in a society that has shifted largely to the right, and a large part of that shift was caused by the religous right wing. Should we all be quiet and ignore what's happened?

All true enough, I suppose; but who does it hurt politically. I believe religion should be kept out of politics. I believe non-religion should be kept out of politics. But, just because I believe in a well defined separation of church and state and am otherwise liberal in my social and political views doesn't mean I'm an atheist. Doesn't mean I don't like atheists and welcome them into the liberal fold, but I don't think evangelical atheism is an appropriate part of political discourse anymore than I think evangelical Christianity is. Liberalism and atheism are not synonymous, and many liberal believers are embarrassed by by the condescention and mockery that the Mahers of this world extend to religion generally, especially when it seems to be embraced by the liberal community. Many moderate believers are put-off that their beliefs are lumped together with those of religious extremists and subjected to ridicule and scorn in the political arena. Some, I am sure, to the extent that they eschew liberalism even tho liberal values are more closely alligned to their own than are conservative ones. So, who does it hurt politically? And for what other reason than the smug satisfaction of saying that the religious right-wing deserves this offensive overkill?
sky of mind
QUOTE (soon2b @ Monday, 13 October 2008, 5:27 pm) *
All true enough, I suppose; but who does it hurt politically. I believe religion should be kept out of politics. I believe non-religion should be kept out of politics. But, just because I believe in a well defined separation of church and state and am otherwise liberal in my social and political views doesn't mean I'm an atheist. Doesn't mean I don't like atheists and welcome them into the liberal fold, but I don't think evangelical atheism is an appropriate part of political discourse anymore than I think evangelical Christianity is. Liberalism and atheism are not synonymous, and many liberal believers are embarrassed by by the condescention and mockery that the Mahers of this world extend to religion generally, especially when it seems to be embraced by the liberal community. Many moderate believers are put-off that their beliefs are lumped together with those of religious extremists and subjected to ridicule and scorn in the political arena. Some, I am sure, to the extent that they eschew liberalism even tho liberal values are more closely alligned to their own than are conservative ones. So, who does it hurt politically? And for what other reason than the smug satisfaction of saying that the religious right-wing deserves this offensive overkill?




Sooner,

If they can tease and hassle us for our non-mainstream religous views, why can't we laugh at them for their stiff neck lack of ability to be self critical?

My point still seams reasonable. If some can see Jesus on a piece of fiddlefaddle, or a mpld stain on some wall, why not on a dogs butt? It's all gods domain and a dogs butt is no more unusual or gross than some mold stain.



I will fully agree with you though that BOTH side outta cool the rhetoric and simply let each person decide for themselves where their own truths are, and hold no one at fault for not agreeing their views..
seuss
QUOTE (sky of mind @ Monday, 13 October 2008, 8:28 am) *
hey, if you can see jesus in a fried cheese sandwich, or a corn flake, why not on a dogs butt?
Aren't they both normal, everyday things in gods dominion?


I find it amusing on two fronts.
One, that ANY random collection if lines and shadings can be construed to be some sort of sign,
two, that people actually get emotional about it.

Or is absolutely everything symbolic of something else?
Religous conspiracy theory? tinfoilhat.gif


There's a difference between claiming to have a Tortilla chip that has an image of Christ for noteriety, and photoshopping an image of Christ on a dog's arse.
sky of mind
QUOTE (seuss @ Monday, 13 October 2008, 8:27 pm) *
There's a difference between claiming to have a Tortilla chip that has an image of Christ for noteriety, and photoshopping an image of Christ on a dog's arse.



Got anything that indicates it's shopped?
Besides, who cares if it's real or not?
Rousseau
I liked some of the replies, like this one;

"God deemed all creation good- and that includes a dog’s butts (which are actually pretty important pieces of equipment if you happen to be a dog). Why is a dog’s butt any less holy than a butterfly’s wing, a cloud formation, a newborn baby’s skin, or a dying man’s eyes? And if God can reveal himself sign an arse (as he did with Balaam) why should we freak out over something like this? We are the one’s who have a problem with a dog’s butt, not God."

..and one of the more alert posters;

"We need more Christians like Paula! Not only is she thoughtful and spiritual-minded, but also capable of writing a paragraph with mostly accurate syntax and spelling. Did Jesus throw around judgment and condemnation? No. Did Jesus love the unlovable, forgive the sinners, accept the outcasts? Yes, He did. Who are you hateful people following?"


What's even more disturbing is that there are nigh on 1000 responses to something that is really very silly, actually.... blink.gif

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zP0sqRMzkwo


I've also just realized how much time I spent reading nearly 1000 replies which have dumbed me down slightly more than usual, and that I'll never get that time back........... blank.gif
Boot
QUOTE (soon2b @ Monday, 13 October 2008, 7:27 pm) *
All true enough, I suppose; but who does it hurt politically. I believe religion should be kept out of politics. I believe non-religion should be kept out of politics. But, just because I believe in a well defined separation of church and state and am otherwise liberal in my social and political views doesn't mean I'm an atheist. Doesn't mean I don't like atheists and welcome them into the liberal fold, but I don't think evangelical atheism is an appropriate part of political discourse anymore than I think evangelical Christianity is. Liberalism and atheism are not synonymous, and many liberal believers are embarrassed by by the condescention and mockery that the Mahers of this world extend to religion generally, especially when it seems to be embraced by the liberal community. Many moderate believers are put-off that their beliefs are lumped together with those of religious extremists and subjected to ridicule and scorn in the political arena. Some, I am sure, to the extent that they eschew liberalism even tho liberal values are more closely alligned to their own than are conservative ones. So, who does it hurt politically? And for what other reason than the smug satisfaction of saying that the religious right-wing deserves this offensive overkill?



Well put.

As a religious person and being (relatively) moderate politically, I can say from personal experience it can be darn hard to fit in.

I'm too liberal for many religious crowds, but to religious for the more liberal crowds.

What am I to do?

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I've also just realized how much time I spent reading nearly 1000 replies which have dumbed me down slightly more than usual, and that I'll never get that time back........... blank.gif


I've stopped reading comment sections, they hurt my head.
tommytoons
blink.gif I thought it was funny as hell!!! Religious folk need to lighten up a bit!!!!!
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