Probably nobody here really cares about this stuff, but here it is:
Genpo Roshi
Also interesting (annoying at times, but interesting nonetheless):
Oprah and Tolle.
Full Version: Cyber Spirituality
Of further (oblique) relevance:
Boomeritis / Pluralitis
--> Ken Wilber - Integral Spirituality
I LOVED that paragraph!
For those who don't know, and are yet somehow interested (beware, because nobody on the planet is more tedious than Ken Wilber; he takes forever to come to the point, and when he does, he does so in a way that it's almost impossible to make sense of it. And when you finally do, you usually realize the point is really simple, and could have been made in about one tenth of the time it took him):
Pre/Trans Fallacy
Boomeritis / Pluralitis
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This also leads, perhaps most sadly, to a rampant anti-intellectualism (instead of trans-intellectualism, which transcends and includes). This anti-intellectualism and anti-rationalism (that quickly slides into pre-rationalism), unfortunately fosters and encourages a narcissistic approach to meditation and spiritual studies (as it slides from worldcentric to ethnocentric to egocentric). This anti-intellectual narcissism is extremely common in popular culture and in alternative colleges devoted to spirituality. Egocentric feelings are confused with worldcentric feelings, just because both are feelings, and under this pre/post confusion, anything is considered spiritual if I just feel it and emote it really hard. If I can just feel my narcissism with great gusto, I'm getting closer to God (or Goddess or Buddha-nature), and thus "universal care" slides to "selfish" quicker than you can say "the Me Generation". This fearless and exuberant embrace of shallowness has marked too many of the alternative approaches to spirituality.
--> Ken Wilber - Integral Spirituality
I LOVED that paragraph!
For those who don't know, and are yet somehow interested (beware, because nobody on the planet is more tedious than Ken Wilber; he takes forever to come to the point, and when he does, he does so in a way that it's almost impossible to make sense of it. And when you finally do, you usually realize the point is really simple, and could have been made in about one tenth of the time it took him):
Pre/Trans Fallacy
He he, I hope it's okay I post this. If anybody objects, I will remove this, so please let me know.
Wilber's full rant.
[FTR, I think Ken Wilber is an intellectual brute, and one of the most stuck up, egoically self centered writers I have ever had the misfortune to read; but he's a genius, ain't no two ways about it.]
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While preparing a review of Integral Spirituality I was -- again -- struck by the many times Wilber uses the word "simply". In my opinion, this is a rethorical device that has run out of hand. For those who did not follow the Wyatt Earp saga, the first time I mentioned this phenomenon in my blog posting Boldness Revisited, it earned me the following, historical and revealing comment from Wilber: "... simply suck my dick."
Wilber's full rant.
[FTR, I think Ken Wilber is an intellectual brute, and one of the most stuck up, egoically self centered writers I have ever had the misfortune to read; but he's a genius, ain't no two ways about it.]
A great section from Integral Spirituality by Ken Wilber, part of the footnote starting on p. 131:
For more advanced students, I will run through the same example with a little more detail.
For more advanced students, I will run through the same example with a little more detail.
- Healthy development converts 1st-person subjective to 1st-person objective or possessive (I to me or mine) within the I-stream, whereas unhealthy development converts 1st-person subjective to 2nd- or 3rd-person (I to yours, his, theirs, it) within the I-stream. The former is healthy dis-identification, the latter is pathological dissociation. Meditation can do both.
- In more detail, and from a slightly different angle, healthy development and transcendence converts events in my subjective-I (which I am completely "identified with" so much so that I cannot see them) into me or mine (which can be seen as an object of my next higher subject - I have transcended and included them: owned them AND transcended them), whereas pathological development converts my 1st-person I into 2nd- or rd-person experience within my own I-space ("I am not angry, but I experience anger in my boss!"), so that I appear to have transcended them when I have actually dissociated them. Healthy dis-identification has become pathological dissociation.
- The central point is that when one takes up meditation, anger will appear as an object of awareness in both cases. But one of them is shadow anger, and one of them is authentic or owned anger, and meditation not only cannot tell the difference, it can exacerbate the dis-identifying and dissociating tendency that created the problem in the first place. "There is anger arising, there is anger arising, there is anger arising..." (In plain English: "I am pathologically dissociating, I am pathologically dissociating, I am pathologically dissociating..." And after years and years of pathologically dissociating, I wonder why I'm not getting anywhere on my spiritual path...)
The problem is, by the time anger arises as a phenomenological object, the damage has already been done. And meditation cannot get at the damage because the prior 1st-person identity with the shadow is unconscious - the hidden identification with the shadow exists in the fact that the shadow is nevertheless and still my own 1st-person impulse, no matter how much I try to deny it, repress is, disown it, and see it as an object. And thus when my shadow-anger shows up as an object or a feeling I can witness, then the dissociating self feels that this is fantastic!, because that is exactly what I am trying to do, see my anger not as mine but simply as something impersonal that I can witness or contemplate or transmute. "Letting go of anger" is exactly what meditation does - and what repression is trying to do! And the repressing self will do everything except own the anger as mine, at which point, but not before, I can begin to let go of it.
It's interesting to see the astronomic amount of spiritual fallacies in "A New Earth". No matter how much I love the book (and I do), somebody should tell Tolle to stick to what he knows.
Here's one:
-- ANE, p. 19
Not even a hint of proof, or a reason as to why Tolle believes the ego is destined to dissolve. And let's be clear about it, that's what it is: a belief, no more. No matter how deep Tolle's insights in the inner workings of what he refers to as the ego (and his insights are VERY deep indeed), he's no historian, or evolutionary biologist, or cognitive scientist, or brain specialist, or some other specialist in any zone#4 field. Just because he has profound insight into the ego from within, that doesn't mean he can make any ontological statements about the nature of the ego.
That sentence shouldn't be in there.
Another example:
-- ANE, p. 182
This statement is closely tied to the notion as presented elsewhere in the book, that spiritual awakening ("enlightenment") is a stage in an (evolutionary) proces. But the experience of awakening isn't a stage in a line of development, it's a state of consciousness, like being awake, dreaming, being drunk. Tolle is adding apples to oranges.
(This, of course, apart from the ludicrous idea that evolution may be voluntarily achieved.)
More later.
If anybody at all reads this, I thank you,
Miles
Here's one:
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But the ego is destined to dissolve, and all its ossified structures, whether they be religious or other institutions, corporations, or governments, will disintegrate from withing, no matter how deeply entrenched they appear to be.
-- ANE, p. 19
Not even a hint of proof, or a reason as to why Tolle believes the ego is destined to dissolve. And let's be clear about it, that's what it is: a belief, no more. No matter how deep Tolle's insights in the inner workings of what he refers to as the ego (and his insights are VERY deep indeed), he's no historian, or evolutionary biologist, or cognitive scientist, or brain specialist, or some other specialist in any zone#4 field. Just because he has profound insight into the ego from within, that doesn't mean he can make any ontological statements about the nature of the ego.
That sentence shouldn't be in there.
Another example:
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The next step in human [sic] evolution is not inevitable, but for the first time in the history of our planet, it can be a conscious choice.
-- ANE, p. 182
This statement is closely tied to the notion as presented elsewhere in the book, that spiritual awakening ("enlightenment") is a stage in an (evolutionary) proces. But the experience of awakening isn't a stage in a line of development, it's a state of consciousness, like being awake, dreaming, being drunk. Tolle is adding apples to oranges.
(This, of course, apart from the ludicrous idea that evolution may be voluntarily achieved.)
More later.
If anybody at all reads this, I thank you,
Miles
Something else of interest:
Wiki: Mindfulness-Based Cognitive Therapy
Interesting is the section labeled Why do we remain vulnerable to depression? In this section the notion is still implicit that depression is a disease. Personally, I feel this way of conceptualizing depression is wrong, or at least incomplete. I think that it's time medical science considers the possibility that depression isn't so much a disease as it is a symptom of a disease. This would explain why depression usually returns: the underlying condition hasn't been dealt with.
Wiki: Mindfulness-Based Cognitive Therapy
Interesting is the section labeled Why do we remain vulnerable to depression? In this section the notion is still implicit that depression is a disease. Personally, I feel this way of conceptualizing depression is wrong, or at least incomplete. I think that it's time medical science considers the possibility that depression isn't so much a disease as it is a symptom of a disease. This would explain why depression usually returns: the underlying condition hasn't been dealt with.
A really funny, and at the same time very illuminating ("enlightening") book. I learned a lot from this cat.
Brad Warner's Home Page
"A dude named Dogen".
I like that.
(FYI> Dogen)
Brad Warner's Home Page
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My name is Brad and I'm a Buddhist.
I was ordained in the Soto School of Zen Buddhism, the sect brought to Japan by a dude named Dogen in the 13th century. My teacher is Gudo Wafu Nishijima. He originally studied under Kodo Sawaki, a radical teacher who set out to overturn pretty much all of what had become established as Buddhism in Japan in the early 20th century. I began studying Zen in the early 1980s in Ohio under Tim McCarthy whose teacher was Kobun Chino who was brought to America by Shunryu Suzuki, author of Zen Mind Beginner's Mind. In those days, I was the bassist for ODFx (or Zero Defex), a hardcore punk band who none other than MDC cited as one of their fave groups. After ODFx bit the dust, I signed to Midnight Records and made five albums under the band name Dimentia 13. In 1994, I fulfilled a lifelong dream and got a job in Tokyo, Japan with the company founded by the special effects man behind the classic Godzilla films. I still work there.
I also wrote a book called Hardcore Zen: Punk Rock, Monster Movies and the Truth About Reality published by Wisdom Publications. It's an OK book. Some people like it. Maybe you will or maybe not. Whatever.
I was ordained in the Soto School of Zen Buddhism, the sect brought to Japan by a dude named Dogen in the 13th century. My teacher is Gudo Wafu Nishijima. He originally studied under Kodo Sawaki, a radical teacher who set out to overturn pretty much all of what had become established as Buddhism in Japan in the early 20th century. I began studying Zen in the early 1980s in Ohio under Tim McCarthy whose teacher was Kobun Chino who was brought to America by Shunryu Suzuki, author of Zen Mind Beginner's Mind. In those days, I was the bassist for ODFx (or Zero Defex), a hardcore punk band who none other than MDC cited as one of their fave groups. After ODFx bit the dust, I signed to Midnight Records and made five albums under the band name Dimentia 13. In 1994, I fulfilled a lifelong dream and got a job in Tokyo, Japan with the company founded by the special effects man behind the classic Godzilla films. I still work there.
I also wrote a book called Hardcore Zen: Punk Rock, Monster Movies and the Truth About Reality published by Wisdom Publications. It's an OK book. Some people like it. Maybe you will or maybe not. Whatever.
"A dude named Dogen".
I like that.
(FYI> Dogen)
Tolle's a weenie. 
This first book is the basic tennets of Hermeticism:
http://www.world-mysteries.com/awr_kybalion.htm
This is a great, inspiring book with good tidbits on daily life, but its not particularly advanced:
http://www.gutenberg.org/etext/23559
This book (pdf) is an advaced guide to yogic techniques and metaphysical abilities:
http://www.yogiramacharaka.com/YogiPhilosophy.pdf
This book (pdf) is often referenced in the previous work, and should be read first (Its nowehere near as fun, though!):
http://www.yogiramacharaka.com/ScienceOfBreath.pdf
This is the link to the publishing house that offers the last two books. If you ever find yourself in need of more advanced spiritual texts, you'll find what your looking for here:
http://yogipublicationsociety.com/
http://www.world-mysteries.com/awr_kybalion.htm
This is a great, inspiring book with good tidbits on daily life, but its not particularly advanced:
http://www.gutenberg.org/etext/23559
This book (pdf) is an advaced guide to yogic techniques and metaphysical abilities:
http://www.yogiramacharaka.com/YogiPhilosophy.pdf
This book (pdf) is often referenced in the previous work, and should be read first (Its nowehere near as fun, though!):
http://www.yogiramacharaka.com/ScienceOfBreath.pdf
This is the link to the publishing house that offers the last two books. If you ever find yourself in need of more advanced spiritual texts, you'll find what your looking for here:
http://yogipublicationsociety.com/
Cool, thanks! 
Documentary about Noah "Dharma Punkx" Levine, about 40 minutes. Website and subtitles are Dutch, but the docu is in English.
Beautiful, in one word.
Dharma Punx
Beautiful, in one word.
Dharma Punx
QUOTE (Esse @ Thursday, 18 September 2008, 6:25 pm) 
Good site.
Isn't the fact that the question is being asked, all that is needed?
I mean, if you ask the question, you will get answers. Answers then increase knowledge, and increaded knowledge then create new questions, etc etc.
Which means the site is for those who have not yet asked the question.
It's not about the destination. The journey is where it all happens.
The most enlightened among us, are those who journey in everything they do.
That means enlightenment isn't about how much you think you know. (desitnation)
It's about the answers you get and the questions you ask. (journey)
A beautiful, crazy, eccentric teisho on Joshu's "Mu".
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An Abbreviated Version of the Five Steps of the Feeding Your Demons Process
Nine Relaxation Breaths: Take nine deep relaxation breaths with long exhalations: for the first three breaths, breathe in and bring the breath to any tension in the body releasing it with the exhalation. For the second three breaths, inhale into any emotional tension, feel where you hold it in your body and release it with the exhalation. And lastly, breathe into any mental tension. Feel where you hold nervousness, worries or mental blockages in your body and release them with the exhalation
Motivation: Generate a heartfelt motivation to practice for the benefit of one’s self and all beings.
The Five Steps
Step 1: Find the Demon
*Decide which demon, god or god-demon you are going to work with.
*Locate where you hold it most strongly in your body.
Become aware of the qualities of the sensations in your body including:
*color
*texture
*temperature
*Intensify the sensation.
Step 2: Personify the Demon and Find Out What It Needs
Personify this sensation as a figure with arms legs, and eyes and see it facing you. If an inanimate object appears imagine what it would look like if it were personified as some kind of being.
Notice:
*color
*skin surface
*gender
*size
*its character
*its emotional state
*the look in its eyes
*notice something about the demon you didn't see before.
Ask the demon what it wants.
What is it that you want from me?
Ask the demon what it needs.
What need to you have that is behind what you want?
Ask the demon how it would feel if it gets what it needs.
If you get what you need how will you feel?
Having asked the questions, immediately change places with the demon.
Step 3: Become the Demon
Face the chair or cushion you were seated on and become the demon, allowing yourself a little time to “sit in its shoes.”
Notice how your normal self looks from the demon’s point of view.
Now answer these three questions:
What I want from you is…
What I need from you is…
What I would feel if I got what I need is…
Step 4: Feed the Demon and Meet the Ally
Feed the demon
Come back to your original position. Take a moment to settle in and see the demon in front of you.
Dissolve your body into nectar that has the quality of the feeling that the demon would have if its need was satisfied (this is the answer to the third question in step 3)
Feed the demon to its complete satisfaction, imagining the nectar entering the demon any way you wish. Keep feeding until complete satisfaction is reached (if the demon seems to be insatiable, then imagine how it would look if it were completely satisfied). At this point you can go directly to step 5 or meet your ally.
Meet the ally
If there is a being present in place of the demon when you end the fourth step, ask this being if it is the ally. If it is not, invite an ally to appear. If the demon has dissolved completely then simply invite an ally to appear.
Notice all the details of the ally: its color, its size, and the look in its eyes.
Ask it one or all of these questions:
How will you help me?
How will you protect me?
What pledge do you make to me?
Change places, becoming the ally, and answer the question(s) above.
Return to your original position, then take a moment and feel the help and protection coming from the ally to you and then imagine the ally is dissolving into you. You and the ally dissolve into emptiness, which naturally takes you to the fifth step.
Step 5: Rest
Rest in the state that is present when the ally dissolves into you and you dissolve into emptiness. Let your mind relax without creating any particular experience. Rest as long as you like without filling the space, trying not to make anything happen or rushing to finish.
Nine Relaxation Breaths: Take nine deep relaxation breaths with long exhalations: for the first three breaths, breathe in and bring the breath to any tension in the body releasing it with the exhalation. For the second three breaths, inhale into any emotional tension, feel where you hold it in your body and release it with the exhalation. And lastly, breathe into any mental tension. Feel where you hold nervousness, worries or mental blockages in your body and release them with the exhalation
Motivation: Generate a heartfelt motivation to practice for the benefit of one’s self and all beings.
The Five Steps
Step 1: Find the Demon
*Decide which demon, god or god-demon you are going to work with.
*Locate where you hold it most strongly in your body.
Become aware of the qualities of the sensations in your body including:
*color
*texture
*temperature
*Intensify the sensation.
Step 2: Personify the Demon and Find Out What It Needs
Personify this sensation as a figure with arms legs, and eyes and see it facing you. If an inanimate object appears imagine what it would look like if it were personified as some kind of being.
Notice:
*color
*skin surface
*gender
*size
*its character
*its emotional state
*the look in its eyes
*notice something about the demon you didn't see before.
Ask the demon what it wants.
What is it that you want from me?
Ask the demon what it needs.
What need to you have that is behind what you want?
Ask the demon how it would feel if it gets what it needs.
If you get what you need how will you feel?
Having asked the questions, immediately change places with the demon.
Step 3: Become the Demon
Face the chair or cushion you were seated on and become the demon, allowing yourself a little time to “sit in its shoes.”
Notice how your normal self looks from the demon’s point of view.
Now answer these three questions:
What I want from you is…
What I need from you is…
What I would feel if I got what I need is…
Step 4: Feed the Demon and Meet the Ally
Feed the demon
Come back to your original position. Take a moment to settle in and see the demon in front of you.
Dissolve your body into nectar that has the quality of the feeling that the demon would have if its need was satisfied (this is the answer to the third question in step 3)
Feed the demon to its complete satisfaction, imagining the nectar entering the demon any way you wish. Keep feeding until complete satisfaction is reached (if the demon seems to be insatiable, then imagine how it would look if it were completely satisfied). At this point you can go directly to step 5 or meet your ally.
Meet the ally
If there is a being present in place of the demon when you end the fourth step, ask this being if it is the ally. If it is not, invite an ally to appear. If the demon has dissolved completely then simply invite an ally to appear.
Notice all the details of the ally: its color, its size, and the look in its eyes.
Ask it one or all of these questions:
How will you help me?
How will you protect me?
What pledge do you make to me?
Change places, becoming the ally, and answer the question(s) above.
Return to your original position, then take a moment and feel the help and protection coming from the ally to you and then imagine the ally is dissolving into you. You and the ally dissolve into emptiness, which naturally takes you to the fifth step.
Step 5: Rest
Rest in the state that is present when the ally dissolves into you and you dissolve into emptiness. Let your mind relax without creating any particular experience. Rest as long as you like without filling the space, trying not to make anything happen or rushing to finish.
Link
QUOTE (Miles @ Sunday, 7 December 2008, 1:25 pm)
good stuff... thanks for the post.
It not only has helped me, but will help people in need in the near future.
Nice to read you, miles.
Maybe you and Usha could both read this, and we could enjoy both of your company!
Then again, I might be expecting too much.
Very confronting process, Feeding Your Demons is. I only did it once, but what came out was food for extended thought. Extended for for thought. I dunno.
I'll be revisiting my demons as much as I can the coming time, at least once a week. I think it's a great addition to my meditation practice.
Glad you like it!
I'll be revisiting my demons as much as I can the coming time, at least once a week. I think it's a great addition to my meditation practice.
Glad you like it!
Great thread Miles! Thanks.
I've actually just downloaded it so I can read through it whenever I have the time... For now, I'm wandering off to see what this feeding the demons is all about!
Welcome to the forum Esse!
I've actually just downloaded it so I can read through it whenever I have the time... For now, I'm wandering off to see what this feeding the demons is all about!
Welcome to the forum Esse!
The 5-step program that I copy/pasted is the abbreviated version of the process as described in the book. Actually, I don't think you really need to read the entire thing, although I did. If you just work with the short version, it seems to get the job done. It would be a good idea, though, to learn the steps by heart, so you don't get distracted by having to open your eyes each time you move to the next step. I guess.
There's the old saying, I heard it and think about it in terms of Native Americans.
An old Shaman is teaching his student about inner forces.
He explains that inside him are two fighting wolves.
One loves all people, cares for and nurtures all people.
The other is selfish, doesn't care about his fellow humans, and will take anything he can get.
The student asked him which one wins?
The Shaman explained, "which ever one I feed."
Not sure if this relates the demons, but that's what it seems to sound like.
An old Shaman is teaching his student about inner forces.
He explains that inside him are two fighting wolves.
One loves all people, cares for and nurtures all people.
The other is selfish, doesn't care about his fellow humans, and will take anything he can get.
The student asked him which one wins?
The Shaman explained, "which ever one I feed."
Not sure if this relates the demons, but that's what it seems to sound like.
QUOTE (Miles @ Thursday, 11 December 2008, 5:24 pm)
The 5-step program that I copy/pasted is the abbreviated version of the process as described in the book. Actually, I don't think you really need to read the entire thing, although I did. If you just work with the short version, it seems to get the job done. It would be a good idea, though, to learn the steps by heart, so you don't get distracted by having to open your eyes each time you move to the next step. I guess.
That was my thinking also.
QUOTE (sky of mind @ Thursday, 11 December 2008, 6:04 pm)
There's the old saying, I heard it and think about it in terms of Native Americans.
An old Shaman is teaching his student about inner forces.
He explains that inside him are two fighting wolves.
One loves all people, cares for and nurtures all people.
The other is selfish, doesn't care about his fellow humans, and will take anything he can get.
The student asked him which one wins?
The Shaman explained, "which ever one I feed."
Not sure if this relates the demons, but that's what it seems to sound like.
An old Shaman is teaching his student about inner forces.
He explains that inside him are two fighting wolves.
One loves all people, cares for and nurtures all people.
The other is selfish, doesn't care about his fellow humans, and will take anything he can get.
The student asked him which one wins?
The Shaman explained, "which ever one I feed."
Not sure if this relates the demons, but that's what it seems to sound like.
I like that. Thanks Sky.
for those who liked zeitgeist: an addendum, or anyone else who has a couple of hours...
This is a GREAT flick... you have to watch it all the way through, though - you can't give up somewhere in the middle, or it'll leave you with a nasty feeling in the pit of your stomach. those who give it the time that deserves will appreciate the rewards.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6...enda+full+movie
This is a GREAT flick... you have to watch it all the way through, though - you can't give up somewhere in the middle, or it'll leave you with a nasty feeling in the pit of your stomach. those who give it the time that deserves will appreciate the rewards.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6...enda+full+movie
Hm.
Interesting!
Interesting!
... just a quick addition to this thread.
Noah Levine on anger:
(I happen to have some serious motherfucking anger issues; hence.)
Noah Levine on anger:
(I happen to have some serious motherfucking anger issues; hence.)
QUOTE (seuss @ Sunday, 14 December 2008, 9:53 pm)
for those who liked zeitgeist: an addendum, or anyone else who has a couple of hours...
This is a GREAT flick... you have to watch it all the way through, though - you can't give up somewhere in the middle, or it'll leave you with a nasty feeling in the pit of your stomach. those who give it the time that deserves will appreciate the rewards.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6...enda+full+movie
This is a GREAT flick... you have to watch it all the way through, though - you can't give up somewhere in the middle, or it'll leave you with a nasty feeling in the pit of your stomach. those who give it the time that deserves will appreciate the rewards.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6...enda+full+movie
I watched this the other day - Very good documentary but Seuss is right, you really need to watch it to the end or you'll miss the whole, a very worthwhile, point!
QUOTE (Miles @ Friday, 19 December 2008, 4:06 pm)
... just a quick addition to this thread.
Noah Levine on anger:
(I happen to have some serious motherfucking anger issues; hence.)
Noah Levine on anger:
(I happen to have some serious motherfucking anger issues; hence.)
Excellent addition! - And very timely too, for me!
Thanks Miles.
(Only very obliquely related; sorry about that...)
Dear, sweet, vulnerable, beautiful, damaged and tormented Leonard,
May you rest in peace.
Dear, sweet, vulnerable, beautiful, damaged and tormented Leonard,
May you rest in peace.
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Vincent D'Onofrio as Leonard "Gomer Pyle" Lawrence: An overweight, clumsy, slow-witted recruit who is the focus of Hartman's attention for being incompetent and fat, making him the platoon scapegoat. After a blanket party from the rest of the platoon for failing almost everything and earning them collective punishments, he turns psychotic and talks to his rifle, "Charlene", yet he becomes a disciplined Marine. In The Short-Timers, Leonard Pratt is a skinny, awkward Alabama boy who shoots Gerheim, then himself, in front of everyone in the bunkhouse section of the barracks. In Full Metal Jacket, he shoots Hartman while in the bathroom, and then himself in front of Joker. The humiliating nickname Gomer Pyle originates from a likable but dim character from the American television program the Andy Griffith Show who eventually enlists in the USMC.
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