For me the analogy I see and feel, it's as if 7 years ago the block bully cornered me and started beating the crap out of me, and for 7 years I've been covering up hoping the beating would eventually end and the block bully would leave me alone so that I could call the cops and have the guy arrested for beating me up for the past 7 years!
Now that it seems that time may be about to arrive, I am wondering if the cops will still be working for me, or for the block bully? Because after all for the past 7 years NOBODY has even tried to rescue me from the block bully, and if I call those who are supposed to work for me to protect me, will they take care of the block bully, or will I just begin another round of institutionalized victimization?
Full Version: Is it almost over? **(Open Thread)**
Hiya Sky, how have you been? 
See, Sky, I refuse to see you as a victim, so I won't address you as one. Just so you know my stance before I start my formal response. Victimisation *is* institutionalised by default. But, and I know you know this, this aren't 'either-or' questionnaires. The "cops" will not be "working for you" because, within this line of thinking, you are setting it up this way, hence they can do nothing for you. In every victim is a perpetrator, if not a perpetrator of injustice towards others, than, and this is the worse variety, a perpetrator of injustics towards the Self, endorsing the Self with a label of victimisation that is actually false. This goes for every victim, and it becomes clear when one takes it out of a binary level of understanding.
There are theories in Psychology that state that evil is an action from the mind, not the heart. Evil is a direct response from external factors, such as upbringing, indoctrination, education or the lack thereof, and internalised behaviour, and, the surroundings in which we find ourselves.
No one has rescued you, Sky, because no one *can* rescue you from the bullies you perceive. Even *if* McCain is elected, and chances are that he will be elected, you have the power to deal with those bullies head on. Because they exist in your mind.
You have a Sky for a mind, so, I would suggest you start using it (I mean this in the nicest way possible).
See, Sky, I refuse to see you as a victim, so I won't address you as one. Just so you know my stance before I start my formal response. Victimisation *is* institutionalised by default. But, and I know you know this, this aren't 'either-or' questionnaires. The "cops" will not be "working for you" because, within this line of thinking, you are setting it up this way, hence they can do nothing for you. In every victim is a perpetrator, if not a perpetrator of injustice towards others, than, and this is the worse variety, a perpetrator of injustics towards the Self, endorsing the Self with a label of victimisation that is actually false. This goes for every victim, and it becomes clear when one takes it out of a binary level of understanding.
There are theories in Psychology that state that evil is an action from the mind, not the heart. Evil is a direct response from external factors, such as upbringing, indoctrination, education or the lack thereof, and internalised behaviour, and, the surroundings in which we find ourselves.
No one has rescued you, Sky, because no one *can* rescue you from the bullies you perceive. Even *if* McCain is elected, and chances are that he will be elected, you have the power to deal with those bullies head on. Because they exist in your mind.
You have a Sky for a mind, so, I would suggest you start using it
(I mean this in the nicest way possible).
QUOTE (usha @ Saturday, 30 August 2008, 11:19 am) 
Hiya Sky, how have you been?
See, Sky, I refuse to see you as a victim, so I won't address you as one. Just so you know my stance before I start my formal response. Victimisation *is* institutionalised by default. But, and I know you know this, this aren't 'either-or' questionnaires. The "cops" will not be "working for you" because, within this line of thinking, you are setting it up this way, hence they can do nothing for you. In every victim is a perpetrator, if not a perpetrator of injustice towards others, than, and this is the worse variety, a perpetrator of injustics towards the Self, endorsing the Self with a label of victimisation that is actually false. This goes for every victim, and it becomes clear when one takes it out of a binary level of understanding.
There are theories in Psychology that state that evil is an action from the mind, not the heart. Evil is a direct response from external factors, such as upbringing, indoctrination, education or the lack thereof, and internalised behaviour, and, the surroundings in which we find ourselves.
No one has rescued you, Sky, because no one *can* rescue you from the bullies you perceive. Even *if* McCain is elected, and chances are that he will be elected, you have the power to deal with those bullies head on. Because they exist in your mind.
You have a Sky for a mind, so, I would suggest you start using it (I mean this in the nicest way possible).
See, Sky, I refuse to see you as a victim, so I won't address you as one. Just so you know my stance before I start my formal response. Victimisation *is* institutionalised by default. But, and I know you know this, this aren't 'either-or' questionnaires. The "cops" will not be "working for you" because, within this line of thinking, you are setting it up this way, hence they can do nothing for you. In every victim is a perpetrator, if not a perpetrator of injustice towards others, than, and this is the worse variety, a perpetrator of injustics towards the Self, endorsing the Self with a label of victimisation that is actually false. This goes for every victim, and it becomes clear when one takes it out of a binary level of understanding.
There are theories in Psychology that state that evil is an action from the mind, not the heart. Evil is a direct response from external factors, such as upbringing, indoctrination, education or the lack thereof, and internalised behaviour, and, the surroundings in which we find ourselves.
No one has rescued you, Sky, because no one *can* rescue you from the bullies you perceive. Even *if* McCain is elected, and chances are that he will be elected, you have the power to deal with those bullies head on. Because they exist in your mind.
You have a Sky for a mind, so, I would suggest you start using it
(I mean this in the nicest way possible).Don't take the analogy literally, or even lean it to some form of literal.
It is after all, only an analogy.
The fact is I did not vote for George. The fact is his policies to not agree with my values, and I have no power other than protest to stop him implementing same. The fact is this has been the case for nearly 8 years. The fact is "the system" hasn't done much, or enough to prevent the implementation of these policies. The fact is the system has, one way or another, supported or condoned these policies, and as such, when I call on them by way of the election process and electing a new leader, will this system be there to work for the change that is so desperately needed? Or, will that system that Bush created through his policies be so well entrenched, or metastasized, that they will no longer work as intended, and will in fact work against me?
Even "Only an analogy" can express someone's (hidden) truth, whether they "know better" in their minds. This "system" is exactly what you have not voted for. This "system" is a direct reflection of Bush-policies that you despise. "They" have been working against you from the beginning, and "they" have never worked, and I think you have always known this. But yes, I believe the true outlook of this system will truly start showing when a new president is elected. This outlook may already be clear in countries that aren't part of the US, but it's common for the source to regain sanity at the very latest.
Can the US get out of this system? Absolutely. Will it? I don't know. I guess it will have to start with good and well-thinking Americans like yourself to stop swallowing horse crap, unintentionally as well as intentionally. Even when you "know" the wrongfullness of this system, there is this instilled force within Americans (and also every one else, I believe) that makes them believe that they are powerless. We are not victims, nor are we perpetrators. We are both, and we all hold a level of resonsibility for the state of the US, and with it, the state of the world. Anyone who does not believe this is deluding themselves, or, they do not understand transcended thinking.
And I know you do. So, even when this is "just" an analogy, don't set up your truth based on an analogy, because it will morph into reality, your reality, that is...
I just think you are better than that, is all.
Can the US get out of this system? Absolutely. Will it? I don't know. I guess it will have to start with good and well-thinking Americans like yourself to stop swallowing horse crap, unintentionally as well as intentionally. Even when you "know" the wrongfullness of this system, there is this instilled force within Americans (and also every one else, I believe) that makes them believe that they are powerless. We are not victims, nor are we perpetrators. We are both, and we all hold a level of resonsibility for the state of the US, and with it, the state of the world. Anyone who does not believe this is deluding themselves, or, they do not understand transcended thinking.
And I know you do. So, even when this is "just" an analogy, don't set up your truth based on an analogy, because it will morph into reality, your reality, that is...
I just think you are better than that, is all.
QUOTE (usha @ Saturday, 30 August 2008, 11:42 am)
Can the US get out of this system? Absolutely. Will it? I don't know.
And that is the premise of the original post
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