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sky of mind
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Bush plans active campaign role for GOP
By TOM RAUM, Associated Press Writer
40 minutes ago - 5.19.8



WASHINGTON - President Bush will help Republican John McCain raise money later this month in Arizona. Beyond that, the White House isn't saying how much the two will campaign together.

The White House on Monday sidestepped a question about how much Bush will campaign with McCain but said the president would actively hit the trail in support of Republican candidates despite his low approval ratings and questions about whether his presence would help or hurt the likely GOP nominee.

"The president believes very strongly that, if we get out and take our message to voters, that we can be successful," said White House spokesman Scott Stanzel.

Bush, who has not been with McCain since a Rose Garden event on March 5, will appear with the Arizona senator at a fundraiser May 27 in Phoenix.

Asked at the daily White House news briefing whether one could expect to see a lot of Bush and McCain together, Stanzel said: "I think you'll see the president out on the campaign trail quite a bit. We'll keep you posted on their events that they may have together."

McCain's Democrats rivals, Barack Obama and Hillary Rodham Clinton, have argued that a McCain administration would amount to a third Bush term.

Bush and McCain, bitter rivals in the 2000 GOP primary contest, had a lighthearted exchange about Bush's role in March, when McCain received the president's endorsement in the Rose Garden.

Bush offered to do whatever helped the most — campaign with McCain or stay away.

McCain declared himself "honored and humbled" to receive Bush's endorsement. He said he'd "be glad to have the president with me in any part of America ... as much as is keeping with his busy schedule."

As to Bush's low approval ratings, Stanzel noted, "it would be interesting to note the approval rating of Congress, as well, which is lower."

In the latest Associated Press-Ipsos poll last month, 28 percent approved of the job Bush is doing, his lowest rating ever in the survey. Just 23 percent gave the Democratic-controlled Congress a positive grade.


Abell9
Wow. First the Dems try and shoot themselves in the foot with all the bickering and bitching, now the GOP wants to lop off it's own legs. Pure brilliance it is.
seuss
QUOTE (Abell9 @ Monday, 19 May 2008, 2:55 pm) *
Wow. First the Dems try and shoot themselves in the foot with all the bickering and bitching, now the GOP wants to lop off it's own legs. Pure brilliance it is.

For all their valedictorians, politicians aren't too bright, huh? If they actually are the "best and brightest" that we have to offer, than we're in some serious trouble... I think we're in serious trouble.
sky of mind
QUOTE (seuss @ Monday, 19 May 2008, 1:05 pm) *
For all their valedictorians, politicians aren't too bright, huh? If they actually are the "best and brightest" that we have to offer, than we're in some serious trouble... I think we're in serious trouble.



Best and brightest? Where the hell do you get that?
Politicians have ALWAYS been the muck at the bottom of the barrel,
right along with used car salesmen and ambulance chasers.

Generally, TJ would be shining example of the contrary, and the main reason he'll have difficulty.
seuss
QUOTE (sky of mind @ Monday, 19 May 2008, 5:13 pm) *
Best and brightest? Where the hell do you get that?
Politicians have ALWAYS been the muck at the bottom of the barrel,
right along with used car salesmen and ambulance chasers.

Generally, TJ would be shining example of the contrary, and the main reason he'll have difficulty.


my point exactly, even though I didn't present it quite that way.

although most of the founders of this nation (now, I said MOST), were top of the heap of their day, in my opinion.
Abell9
QUOTE (seuss @ Monday, 19 May 2008, 5:20 pm) *
my point exactly, even though I didn't present it quite that way.

although most of the founders of this nation (now, I said MOST), were top of the heap of their day, in my opinion.


Agreed, agreed, and agreed. See there. Libs and knuckle draggers can agree.
seuss
QUOTE (Abell9 @ Monday, 19 May 2008, 5:32 pm) *
Agreed, agreed, and agreed. See there. Libs and knuckle draggers can agree.

knuckle dragging comments aside, we agree pretty often, don't we? By the way, I may lean "left" pretty often, because I have a conscience, but that doesn't mean I'm a liberal. I'm not for big spending. Neo - con = big spender, just not on social programs. I don't have many problems with true (fiscal) conservatives... most have their heads screwed on properly. It's the social conservatives that I have the most problems with... It actually seems antithetical to republicanism to tell people how they should run their lives...
Abell9
QUOTE (seuss @ Monday, 19 May 2008, 5:42 pm) *
knuckle dragging comments aside, we agree pretty often, don't we? By the way, I may lean "left" pretty often, because I have a conscience, but that doesn't mean I'm a liberal. I'm not for big spending. Neo - con = big spender, just not on social programs. I don't have many problems with true (fiscal) conservatives... most have their heads screwed on properly. It's the social conservatives that I have the most problems with... It actually seems antithetical to republicanism to tell people how they should run their lives...


Well put together statement. Not sure I ever separated the two like that. And again....agreed. But big spending isnt just a left or right issue. Its WHAT they spend it on. The left, on many social programs that make people beholden to and subject to any and every Govt burp. The right, wasteful contracts, military spending and overthrows of other Govts........not sure which one I object to the most. Damn.....you have to love politics.
seuss
QUOTE (Abell9 @ Monday, 19 May 2008, 4:50 pm) *
Well put together statement. Not sure I ever separated the two like that. And again....agreed. But big spending isnt just a left or right issue. Its WHAT they spend it on. The left, on many social programs that make people beholden to and subject to any and every Govt burp. The right, wasteful contracts, military spending and overthrows of other Govts........not sure which one I object to the most. Damn.....you have to love politics.

There's a difference between loving it, and studying it - preferably to understand it for the greater good.
sky of mind
QUOTE (seuss @ Monday, 19 May 2008, 3:20 pm) *
my point exactly, even though I didn't present it quite that way.

although most of the founders of this nation (now, I said MOST), were top of the heap of their day, in my opinion.



Most all were wealthy land owners. Most all had personal reasons for what they did, history records only the most noble.




BTW, Bush is Literally the best thing to happen to the Progressive movement since Hoover.
Too bad the price had to be so bloody high!
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