Post your conspiracy theories here.

Here's mine: We know they were military/government types. I think they were sent here to spy on us, but once I became an official candidate for office, it was illegal of them to gather intel on me.

(You always come through, TJ!)
Jubal dissapeared a while before you signed on... maybe not as an obama supporter, but definately before the state rep thing. I assure you, that if they were survieling you, they were survieling others, and that wouldn't keep them away completely... maybe they just found a hidden window or something?
I don't think so... I mean, if Jubal or Abell were snoops, why try to be all conservative, why not try to fit a lower profile?

My "theory" is that considering the progressive movement that is still gaining momentum, they've gone off to drink away their remaining good fortune while they can.

Having Obama as President, with Hillary leading tthe Senate and Pelosi heading the house, that's more than a good conservative outta have to deal with all at once!



Actually, I think the Pentagon spy idea has credibility.
Critical thinkers are the bane of a tightly controlled system.

crazy boy. I was kidding. I think SKY is the SPY! It even rhymes!

I think the "Spy on TJ" contract got taken over by Blackwater, and they'll be assigning new agents shortly.

I'm pretty sure they joined forces with maxanne, and plan to join the paulists actions at the RNC.

Maybe they were caught and punished for hanging out with liberals!

arrested by the thought police? maybe...
either that or working for them... maybe they were doing research for FOX news, coming up with some ground - breaking "counterspin" page for a website.

Show 'em what happens to liberal-coddlers, Inquisitor!

I don't like it when people just disappear without warning. I always wonder if something's happened to them.

That's the trouble with the internet, you just don't know what happens to people!
I know one woman who was rumoured to be dead, but is now believed to be sick, but no-one seems to be sure. Another good friend of mine has a potentially life threatening condition (late stage Lime disease), and he goes quiet for months at a time when he's ill. Very worrying!

So, do you think our guys are OK?

If the persona that belongs to Abell is real, then I have absolutely no question that he's doing fine.
The same goes for Jubal, even though his persona had more attitude.

Unfortunately we don't even know if the people we thought we knew are even real.

I'm sure Jubal is fine, but Abell does have me worried.

You know if they notice we are talking about them, they might come back. Who cares why they left? They are gone, lets just count that as a win?

A win? You must not be paying attention...
Abell (at the very least) seemed to have converted to certain extent, at least as long as nobody was spewing poorly thought out, partisan, logic... he also appreciated this forum enough to match contributions up to fifty bucks, no matter how others may have tried to undercut that benevolence. I liked having him around as a gut-check for over politicization.

Jubal, though surly and confrontational, offered well-educated perspective on the law, and gave more insight on native issues than most would ever even begin to contemplate. Our butting heads aside, he is a brilliant man, who could back his assertions with legal precedent and well deserved reciprocation against the abject genocide of his people.

I miss both of their perspectives, along with a few others that we no longer hear from.

We might need to examine why we've lost them, and others, and try to re-evaluate the voices we choose to project toward our fellow citizens and board members, possibly limiting our confrontational urges.

You'll have to come up with your own theories about Abell and Jubal, as I have. As for the forum generally, I pop in here and also read the headlines daily. I find that I don't post as much or as thoughtfully as I have in the past tho. For me I think, it's just mental fatigue. It's been a long primary season and a very long 7 1/2 years. Every day there's some outrageous thing(s) that happen, but it's been going on so long that nothing outrages me anymore. Maybe that's the idea. Every day it seems that Conyers or Waxman claim to have had enough, but nothing happens, so I can't even muster any enthusiasm about justice being served. Like we aren't gonna have enough problems electing the first black president, laws are being passed to make it very difficult for probable Democrats to vote. Many have probably been purged from the roles who don't even know it. Much of the country will still be using electronic voting machines that are proven to be rigged as far as I'm concerned. While Republicans carry out their campaign to eliminate practically non-existant voter fraud, nothing much has been done about real election fraud after all these years, so my optimism about this election isn't so great. Hope I'm wrong. I'm happy as a clam (that's an old expression, kind'a like the onion on John McCain's belt) with the rest of my life, but I can't seem to muster any real enthusiasm about politics right now. Maybe others are experiencing a little ennui too.

I feel your projection, soon2be...
(and I mean no offense or "ageism" by this) the longer you've dealt with the corruption and dissatisfaction on both sides, the more likely you'll become bitter about politics in general and stay home, or the stronger your partisan affiliation becomes...
It's a strange world these days, wondering weather this huge perspective shift in politics, and those who we believe are the best people for the highest executive perspective in the land are worthy of our vote, and wether or not we convince others of this. It doesn't surprise me that in the late-stage sessions of the primaries, some retreat to refocus, or lick their wounds.

This is it, though. This is the chance we have to TRY to elect ethics into politics. I'm as guilty as most as far as pessimism rulling my perspective, but, at my core, I know the answer.

My HS football coach used to chant "pain is excellent" as we ran wind-sprints at the end of practice...
Pain is the motivation toward victory. Without it, we'd become complacent.

If we lost, there was always more pain in store for us, because of our loss.
This is the first time I've been able to use an expiriential sports rial as a political analogy, as it's the first time I feel it fits.

A win? Are you kidding? It's a loss. A big loss.

Don't worry, i was just kidding. At least about two of them being gone.

See if you can guess who i wasn't joking about.

I quite often disagreed with both Jubal and Abell, and they usually didn't like it when ever I stated my disagreement. However, even my enemy has useful information to share through reasonable conversation. Just as long as you don't actually believe every word they say. (Hard to know which is BS and bravado, and which is real)


Still, I'd prefer to have them around. They were both entertaining in a mental floss kind of way, and quite often had a perspective to add that helped me to see things more completely.

Also, there's an old saying....

"Keep your friends close, but keep your enemies even closer!" (the word "enemy" is figurative and NOT literal)

enemy? Seriously? You gotta be kiddin me.

Both are extraordinarily intelligent; one formally educated, the other brilliant in a more organic way. Abell was unbelievably generous, both financially and by sharing his great humor and humanity with those who failed to share some of his core beliefs. Maxanne is one of the most informed, articulate and passionate old fasioned liberals I've "known". Only her personal experience can explain her (in my opinion) hypersensitivity and hostility toward this group over a singular issue of perception. Their absensce would be a great loss to any community.

I fully concur, assuming everything we see and saw was real.
I would hope that it was, I believe that it was, but we really have no proof, and the possibility does exist.

Abell was just online - I wrote him a PM, but then he dissapeared...
wonder if I need a shower?

Some want me gone, some want me here, some want me dead.....pretty good mix of stuff in there. Cracked me up. Didnt leave the board, just left the country for a while.....again....all good. All of the things I do or have been doing are all things that someone here has railed against at one point and time. But, as the saying goes, someone has to do the nasty. I was convinced I would not be doing it again after my last return but....I was wrong.

Can't speak for Jube....not sure what he is up to. Someone PM him and rattle his cage. Max, she is gone. Weird thing about Max. She and I became good internet buds. Exchanging idea, thoughts, differences, ideals....I speak to her once in awhile. Cool lady that one. I dont think you could have 2 people more different in their thinking than us but we at the very least look at what is being said, agree or disagree and move on. No warfare...just a valid friendship.



Not sure why you felt the need to say that, Sky....but...go with it. Everything I said I did was done and I dont share what I do at current because it would create a sh*tstorm of drama and is best left alone. In the end though, the board is a place to share thoughts, beliefs, idea's and insight. Something I have learned volumes about just being here. I never cared one way or the other on your agreement or disagreement since it is the reason I come here...to get contrast.


And with that....Im off to save the world.

Good to see you're safe and well, Abell.

Why is it nearly everybody who has responded to what I posted, took it out of context?
I assume some did so just for the sport, but I also assume some did so for other reasons.
Qurious thing that.


Anyhow, I to am pleased Abell is safe and spittin vinegar as always.
Sure do wish Maxanne would come back to the board. She's good people.

It's the internet. It's what we do.

Glad to see Abel is OK.

Abell!!! Good to read you!
- Usually you tell us when you're going away so we can pine and worry at our leisure, but this time you went without a word, so we pined and worried in a much less leisurely manner!
Glad you're safe and well. I's true I hate what you do, but thats never gonna stop me caring about you!

So, now we only have to pine and worry over Jubal (who hasn't responded to PM's for a while now - that could be just mine though).

Thank you, Karen. Nice thing to say. I do appreciate it.

Interesting, I also stated that I was pleased for his continued good health, but he didn't mention his appreciation.
Maybe I need to work on my curves?

1. The thread's about Abell and Jubal, not you.
2. It's not your curves that need work, it's the way you qualify/justify your concern...kinda takes the shine off it.
3.

Hey, what happened to that famous scouse dark humor?

You know, Karen brings an intersting point to the conversation. Once upon a time I told a high ranking person "I hope you get f*cked". He of course thought I was telling him to go get f*cked and was pretty put out by it. In truth, I could have meant I hope he got laid which in my world....is a good thing and a salutation of warmth. Which one I meant really isnt important but suffice to say the meaning could go either way.

And I like Karen. Not because of her curves...her mind you know.

But to keep all things fair and equal. Thank you, Sky for saying I was full of sh*t, basically doubtful, and in good health. I do appreciate the kind words of encouragement.

Fair and equal, I really doubt that's one of your larger priorities.
What ever floats yer boat!

Look up.... that's it, right there, just above your head.









Well, how was expected to resist!