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BillCo98
I was listening to George Galloway's show last night when a regular contributor, former Republican Congressman, John Leboutillier commented that there was a strong possibility that, in their desperation not to lose the Democratic Nomination, the Clintons may be about to spill the beans on a sex scandal involving Barack Obama.

Any comments?
seuss
QUOTE (BillCo98 @ Saturday, 10 May 2008, 9:45 am) *
I was listening to George Galloway's show last night when a regular contributor, former Republican Congressman, John Leboutillier commented that there was a strong possibility that, in their desperation not to lose the Democratic Nomination, the Clintons may be about to spill the beans on a sex scandal involving Barack Obama.

Any comments?

That's a little vague...
Sounds like a Rovian tactic...
hint about something that never happened, create a buzz, then act like you never did it in the first place.

Maybe it's a move to try to get his old lovers to fabricate a story for a book deal...
shades of clinton's first campaign...
BillCo98
QUOTE (seuss @ Saturday, 10 May 2008, 4:15 pm) *
That's a little vague...
Sounds like a Rovian tactic...
hint about something that never happened, create a buzz, then act like you never did it in the first place.

Maybe it's a move to try to get his old lovers to fabricate a story for a book deal...
shades of clinton's first campaign...


Yes, but besides it would reek of hypocrisy for obvious reasons.

Apart from his comment about the possible revelation, Le Boutillier emphasised that Hilary Clinton knows that her prospects of ever running again would be dealt a fatal blow if she fails to win the nomination this time around, but if she wins the nomination but fails to beat McCain she could still come back and try again.

I guess we will see just how desperate she really is over the next few weeks.
seuss
QUOTE (BillCo98 @ Saturday, 10 May 2008, 1:46 pm) *
Yes, but besides it would reek of hypocrisy for obvious reasons.

Apart from his comment about the possible revelation, Le Boutillier emphasised that Hilary Clinton knows that her prospects of ever running again would be dealt a fatal blow if she fails to win the nomination this time around, but if she wins the nomination but fails to beat McCain she could still come back and try again.

I guess we will see just how desperate she really is over the next few weeks.


First off, I'm respoding to this as a comment by a republican...
Secondly, This perspective would negate the idea that Obama wasn't the strongest candidate to begin with. Most of the american media is posing as though she could run as an "I told you so" candidate in 2012. If her only hope to win in future elections is to win this one, it would expain her reluctance to drop out, but it would kill her argument that she was the most electable.

on a sidenote, no offense to foriegners, but those on the other side of the pond may be getting better news about world events, but I doubt they have all the current facts about the american presidential race. Especially ex-republican congressmen that no one's ever heard of.
BillCo98
QUOTE (seuss @ Saturday, 10 May 2008, 7:01 pm) *
First off, I'm respoding to this as a comment by a republican...
Secondly, This perspective would negate the idea that Obama wasn't the strongest candidate to begin with. Most of the american media is posing as though she could run as an "I told you so" candidate in 2012. If her only hope to win in future elections is to win this one, it would expain her reluctance to drop out, but it would kill her argument that she was the most electable.

on a sidenote, no offense to foriegners, but those on the other side of the pond may be getting better news about world events, but I doubt they have all the current facts about the american presidential race. Especially ex-republican congressmen that no one's ever heard of.


I take your point, Seuss. I forgot to ask the question, 'has anyone ever heard of him?'

George Galloway pinned his colours to Barack Obama's mast before the Primaries kicked off. Lebouttier has been giving us his take on events on roughly a fortnightly basis since then. Galloway is pretty choosy about who he invites to provide comment on his show.

I have not had the impression that Lebouttier has been anything other than straight-up regarding his comments. It may be that he is being devious but then again he is of Republican persuasion.

On the other hand, I have possibly played into his hands by opening this thread and starting up a malicious anti-Obama rumour.

I will try to ask George Galloway this evening to throw some light on Leboutillier. If I am successful I shall report back.
BillCo98
The folllowing was taken from the guys Blog site

http://leboutillier.blogspot.com/

Monday, March 24, 2008
THREE DEMOCRATS RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT



Barring some unexpected development (see below), the choice in November for President is going to be one of the three remaining candidates: John McCain, Barack Obama or Hillary Clinton.

You know what?

All three of them are offensive to conservatives and opposed to conservative principles.

In fact, all three are basically Democrats - including McCain.

How can that be said about McCain, the presumptive GOP nominee? Simple. We now know that twice since 2002, McCain has considered joining the Democratic Party or the 2004 Democratic ticket, as the Veep candidate with his great pal, John Kerry.

And yet the GOP has somehow selected McCain as our candidate? How can this be?

Have you ever heard of a candidate picked by a party who is so disliked and distrusted by that party’s members?

How many rabid pro-McCain GOP voters do any of us know? Who are these people? Where are they?

No, what Rush Limbaugh said a month ago is true: the So-Called Mainstream Media - liberals all - have chosen our nominee for us!!!

What a total absurdity this is!!!

No wonder so many rank-and-file Republicans and conservatives are distraught over the looming choice in November. Yes, Obama and Hillary are worse than McCain on many issues. But so what? The Democrats will pick up seats in the House and Senate and have virtually total control of the Congress. Even if McCain were to win, what is he really going to do? Does he have a program he wants to implement? Does he have anything he wants to fight for - other than staying in Iraq? And, is he going to stand up to this Democratic Majority? No, he is not. His history and his penchant is to make deals with Democrats. So he will deal. He will happily hop in bed with Teddy Kennedy - yet again - and sign a bill giving amnesty and citizenship to illegals.

He may also go along with Democratic attempts to re-impose the Fairness Doctrine because McCain and the Left loathe conservative talk radio and would love to diminish it’s reach and power.

McCain was so comfortable with Democrats that he considered becoming one. So he will be happy with a Democrat-controlled Congress. He will scale back some of their crazy spending programs with the veto threat. And, to his credit, McCain is indeed a deficit hawk who will try to reign in the crazy new federal spending programs the Democrats will impose next year.

But he will be a very, very weak and impotent President from Day One because his election will only be a rejection of his opponent - not an endorsement of anything McCain offers. There will be no mandate for anything John McCain stands for because he doesn’t stand for anything.

McCain is no Reagan who ran on a comprehensive - and consistently conservative - approach to solving problems.

McCain’s self-proclaimed ‘maverick’ nature makes him a Wild Card who has no philosophy about anything. All he runs on is his resume. Period.

Now, let us look at John McCain, the candidate:

• He has become inarticulate;

• He often stumbles on words;

• He is also making more gaffes, like the one about Iran training Al Qaeda terrorists;

• He looks old; in fact, he looks older than his age and he seems to have aged a decade’s worth of years in the last six months;

• He will not do particularly well in the fall debates because continued exposure to him makes voters like him less;

• He is a politician at the end of the line - not a new, potent force full of energy out to change things;

• As stated here before: there is a 40% chance that McCain is not the GOP nominee in September. Something is going to happen - not sure what - to re-shuffle this race;

• In fact, there is certain to be a Big, Big Surprise news event that will greatly impact the presidential and congressional election;


Conclusion: McCain, Obama and Hillary are a pathetic three-some of candidates for President. There is little difference among them on some issues - which is an incredible indictment of the GOP. How could we nominate a candidate who agrees with Obama and Hillary on anything?

That is why it is likely that shocking revelations and a Major News Event will indeed occur that will totally shake up this race.


He does suggest some bombshell event might happen in what he says above.

Enough said, probably.
seuss
QUOTE (BillCo98 @ Saturday, 10 May 2008, 2:19 pm) *
I take your point, Seuss. I forgot to ask the question, 'has anyone ever heard of him?'

George Galloway pinned his colours to Barack Obama's mast before the Primaries kicked off. Lebouttier has been giving us his take on events on roughly a fortnightly basis since then. Galloway is pretty choosy about who he invites to provide comment on his show.

I have not had the impression that Lebouttier has been anything other than straight-up regarding his comments. It may be that he is being devious but then again he is of Republican persuasion.

On the other hand, I have possibly played into his hands by opening this thread and starting up a malicious anti-Obama rumour.

I will try to ask George Galloway this evening to throw some light on Leboutillier. If I am successful I shall report back.

Sounds good, I hope you get the chance to ask your question. I dig Galloway, and I appreciate his perspectives, and it's pretty well shown over the last few years how the american media can be slanted and confused. I just question the motives of any republican voicing their opinions on the Democratic race. Why would any of them take it as an opportunity to be objective, when they're power hungry, corrupt bastards for the most part, looking at an election that will send them into political obscurity for the next half-decade?

please re-post with any developments you come up with.
seuss
wow... I just caught your last post, and I've never heard of McCain trying to change sides...
Other than relatively minor players, the only party shift I've heard rumors of has been Lieberman, and that wouldn't be by choice, it would be because of the Dem's deciding that he's a wolf in sheep's clothing.

It doesn't surprise me that a man who Jerks off to the image of Sam Brownback would try to manifest a situation that would call to question the campaign of the most progressive candidate left.
seuss
wow... I just caught your last post, and I've never heard of McCain trying to change sides...
Other than relatively minor players, the only party shift I've heard rumors of has been Lieberman, and that wouldn't be by choice, it would be because of the Dem's deciding that he's a wolf in sheep's clothing.

It doesn't surprise me that a man who Jerks off to the image of Sam Brownback would try to manifest a situation that would call to question the campaign of the most progressive candidate left.

This guy sounds worse than Bill'o and Hannity combined!
BillCo98
QUOTE (seuss @ Saturday, 10 May 2008, 7:36 pm) *
Sounds good, I hope you get the chance to ask your question. I dig Galloway, and I appreciate his perspectives, and it's pretty well shown over the last few years how the american media can be slanted and confused. I just question the motives of any republican voicing their opinions on the Democratic race. Why would any of them take it as an opportunity to be objective, when they're power hungry, corrupt bastards for the most part, looking at an election that will send them into political obscurity for the next half-decade?

please re-post with any developments you come up with.


I managed to speak to George Galloway on his show last night but the agenda did not give scope to discuss the US elections - too much happening on this side of the pond at the moment. I'll wait for Lebouttillier's next report and re-post then.
Spud Demon
QUOTE (BillCo98 @ Saturday, 10 May 2008, 3:33 pm) *
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• As stated here before: there is a 40% chance that McCain is not the GOP nominee in September. Something is going to happen - not sure what - to re-shuffle this race;

• In fact, there is certain to be a Big, Big Surprise news event that will greatly impact the presidential and congressional election;

He seems to be hinting at McCain's death. There is nothing else that would stop his nomination.

I think if a candidate dies after the party convention but before the general election, his name would still be on the ballot but whomever he chose for VP would be the real candidate.

It doesn't seem likely to me, but others have died at very opportune times for the Repugs. William Casey comes to mind.
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