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POAC
Anybody know one? wink.gif

OK, here's something I'd like Jubal's comment on. In his words.

And Jubal, I don't mean to put you on the spot, you can respond in PM if you want, but I appreciate your ethnic pride and love to have it featured here. Here's the deal:

What would you say regarding a politician who has this on his voting record?

Voted against [b]Recognition of Tribal Court Decisions [/b]. A bill that requires state courts to recognize tribal court rulings in civil cases.

So there ya go. Just wonder what you would have to say and I thought the folks here would benefit from your perspective.

edit: I had some other stuff in there, but I deleted it to address as a separate issue.
seuss
QUOTE(POAC @ Tuesday, 11 March 2008, 8:00 pm) *
Anybody know one? wink.gif

OK, here's something I'd like Jubal's comment on. In his words.

And Jubal, I don't mean to put you on the spot, you can respond in PM if you want, but I appreciate your ethnic pride and love to have it featured here. Here's the deal:

What would you say regarding a politician who has this on his voting record?

Voted against [b]Recognition of Tribal Court Decisions [/b]. A bill that requires state courts to recognize tribal court rulings in civil cases.

Voted Yes to pass a bill that repeals the requirement that casinos be over water.

However...

Voted Yes for Prohibition of Video Gambling Machines. Vote to pass a bill that prohibits video gambling machines and after 45 days of enactment imposes an excise tax of 65 percent for all revenues earned from video gambling machines.

So there ya go. Just wonder what you would have to say and I thought the folks here would benefit from your perspective.


umm...
"indian" gaming...
you might want to work on other issues for now...

that's justt my opnion...
POAC
QUOTE(seuss @ Tuesday, 11 March 2008, 7:09 pm) *
umm...
"indian" gaming...
you might want to work on other issues for now...

that's justt my opnion...


It relates to other issues I'm addressing.
sky of mind


I think I can see what the other issues might be, and I agree with your decision.



(This has nothing to do with your decision, it's just another interesting issue)
Around here Indian gaming is big. The Warm Springs Federations of Tribes wants to put the first off reservation casino here


http://www.kgw.com/news-local/stories/kgw_....293f983d6.html

This is in the Columbia River Gorge National Scenic Area. It's protected space. You can't even build a house here!
Needless to say there's plenty of controversy.



Sorry, I know that's a tangent that didn't help anything. Just an interesting situation concerning the rights of the Naturals and the desire to preserve and protect some of natures gems.

Jubal
Did some looking, did some thinking.

It's partly a question of sovereignty, and there are historical and racial aspects. The law in question would have given more symbolic recognition to tribal court judgments than real recognition. They're treating tribal courts as though they are courts of another country. The language in the exceptions is almost identical to the language in treaties on recognition of foreign judgments. So it appears that Rep. Soderberg is treating Indians as a foreign nation. He's denying that we are Americans, he's denying that we are able to render justice, he's denying us a considerable measure of control over our own communities, and he's denying that America has a rich heritage of legal influences. Louisiana operates under the Napoleonic Code, and Puerto Rico operates under the Spanish Civil Code. Several states in the Southwest have a significant influence from the Spanish Civil Code in their laws, one obvious example being "community property." Given this national tradition of legal diversity, and given the fact that the bill would give tribal courts less recognition than the Iowa county courts, I'd say the Representative still regards Indians and Indian sovereignty as not being worth taking seriously. In other words, his mind is embedded in the "conquered primitive savages" view of Indians. It might also speak to a fear of diversity in general.

There's nothing in his gaming votes that really points one way or the other. I'll take off on the IGA some other time.

And it's Shawnee, POAC. Despite the similarity in names, no relation. Big river between us.

POAC
Very appreciated. Thank You. And sorry about my mistake.
Jubal
QUOTE(POAC @ Thursday, 13 March 2008, 9:57 am) *
Very appreciated. Thank You. And sorry about my mistake.

No problem. Hell, half the time I can't tell us apart! laugh.gif
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