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so... when's international men's day?

Every other day of the year.

damn, you sound like my grandparents when i asked on mother's day when kids day was.

we're the minority... check the numbers.

Maybe a few centuries of suppression and oppression will help you figure this out?

Maybe a few centuries of suppression and oppression will help you figure this out?

you know I'm just taking the piss, right?

I do now!
Since when did you Americans start taking the piss in this way? I expect it from my friends and neighbours, but not from you. It's downright confusing!

Idiot.

Dude, the women on this board don't dance with little boys.
Why should they give you the attention you crave?

Hmmmm... some one didn't take women's studies as an option at school.

May I ask you, do you honestly expect me to bite on what is probably the single lamest piece bate any troll as ever put before me?

Wow! So you really are that stupid?
That's amazing!

so in other words, women intimidate you?
And to counter this, you feel the need to attempt to control or dominate?

That's really pathetic, even for a very young person such as yourself.
Girls scare you, so you talk badly about them or treat them badly to retaliate?
Do you have any idea what Freud has to say about this sort of behavior?

Freud would just crack up laughing at this sad excuse for a troll, and write a long tretise on the dangers of immature young boys and exposure to internut porn.

Then he'd bill him outrageously and go and have a delicious meal in exquisite company at a slap-up restaurant, while Captain Troll drools away with his nose pressed to the warm plate-glass window, causing some diners to almost feel pity on this miasma of tragic, fat and squinting spotted youth, but ultimately to request that the Maitre d'hote draw the curtain, because the cross-eyed leer of Captain Stupid is curdling the delicious Lobster Biquet....

And we CAN'T have that......

Generally I agree, except I think after dinner Freud would write a nice letter to his mother and scold her for paying a wee bit too much attention to his potty training!

Hey Rou... where've ya been?
Good to have you back!

Alright then, who cleaned up the mess?
It's the maids day off, so who volunteered?

I was wondering about that. I suspect there mus be some kind of spam detector or something, that automatically cleans up?

I was trying to respond to a particularly disturbing post from Stephanus in a thread tha it turned out was no longer there! Thankfully I managed to copy it to my clip-board and send it to TJ...

Advocating violence, including suicide is wrong Shephanus. And it is duly noted!

I've been rushing around like a neocon trying to prop up the crumbling edifice of lies, and haven't had much time to do anything near my computer.
Thanks, it's nice to drop in on the odd troll that wiggles it's sleazy head up into the calm of the POAC.

BTW, happy International Womans day.
The sooner Women run the place, the happier I'll be.
I make, however, exceptions for Hillary and Margeret Thatcher.
Just imagine, logic and multi-tasking. No testosterone (well, maybe a small war once a month.....) running Foreign Policy, just respect and rational decision-making.
If the bringers of life can't do a better job than the morons that have run the show so far (by what divine miracle we're still here, I do not know...) then I may have to leave the planet..............

Why, thank you! Happy international Women's Day to you too!

The way I see Margaret Thatcher and Hilary Clinton is that they are completely immersed in male roles to the extent that they have abandoned (and therefore deny) their true strength as women.
Women have very specific strengths, as do men. Denying those strengths is tantamount to declaring them worthless.


Disclaimer: I've just pulled all of that out of the top of my head. Now I will go away and consider it's validity!

Hillary and Maggie would have a valuable role to play when women get to run the show.
It's the diversity that makes strength. Any laminate is stronger than a single large piece.
A diverse forest is stronger than a tree farm, etc etc etc.

These women would represent one section of the rainbow that is diversity, and as non-pleasing as their views and message may be, their views and message are as important as any other. That doesn't mean I have to listen to it, but I do have to allow it!

How could a diverse forest eco-system be completly whole and strong without slime mold?

Beautifully put Sky.
Thank you.

Its brilliant isnt it?! LOTS OF GIRLS TO GET AROUND TO!!!

I'm a disillusioned feminist, I read lots on the topic and it interested me a great deal, both as a corner stone to womans liberation and as an ideology to which either woman or men could ascribe.

However slowly but surely I decided that women are as likely as men to be bad bosses, leaders, professionals, parents etc. through bitter experience and no amount of theorising or reading was going to be able to persuade me otherwise and I wanted to be persuaded.

That there needs to be some sort of equivalent of feminism for men, by that I in no way mean the bitter mens movements that you get in the US or UK who want a kind of patriarchal hell and generally have a lot of reactionary views which I dont believe would suit anyone at all.

The only thing anything like what I'm talking about has been things like Maddox's dictionary of manliness which is all very self-consciously satirical, even moronically so, but which expresses the vague notions still circulating in half forgotten culture jam.

Were did the original post go?

I was just reading bits and pieces from other peoples responses back to the original poster but it didnt make much sense.

Anyway I think women deserve a day more than men, I absolutely LOVE women, I dont know why there are heterosexual women in the world because I wouldnt blame women for loving women too, I'm just glad there are heterosexual women.

True, but consider this,
Stastically, men still earn more than women.
There are still very few female CEO's.
Men are rarely raped by women.

Hmm, yeah, what is this consideration supposed to be achieving?

I work in a trust which has had a number of female CEOs, its not made any difference to how things are run, a lot of the management is exclusively female too and I cant say its a wonderfully different place to work from a male dominated organisation. I dont believe that sex and gender is as powerful an influence in those situations as office politics, grasping ambition, a lot of things of that kind.

So far as rape goes its a law and order issue, it shouldnt be happening.

Hi Lark,
Feminism developed as an ideology after thousands of years of repression and suppression of women which still goes on to this day. I'm not sure that a male equivalent is possible, though I do take your point that masculinity should be celebrated. My question then would be, given that we live in a male dominated word which reveres masculine qualities over and above feminine ones, does your male equivalent not already exist in all but name.

In your response to Sky you suggest that having women in managerial positions in the work-place makes no perceptible difference to the way the work place is run. I would suggest that that is probably due to the masculinisation (new word?) of the roles taken on by women who have yet to establish feminine qualities as EQUAL to (not better than) masculine qualities.




We had a troll, he was an idiot. Nuf said.

If you don't know why there are heterosexual women in the world, you mustn't have been paying close enough attention I think.
I do believe we compliment each other perfectly - especially when each is valued as much as the other.

There ya go. There's one I'll keep for a long time.