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soon2b
http://www.bbc.co.uk/worldservice/learning...se/page13.shtml
Lessons in sarcasm from the BBC Homepage blink.gif

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Some common examples of sarcasm
Remember to judge when and with whom to be sarcastic - you can offend people with inappropriate use of this language.

After something bad or annoying happens:
Oh terrific / great / brilliant! That's just what I need.
After something unsurprising happens:
Well what a surprise!
After somebody makes a mistake:
Oh nice one!
Oh well done!
After someone says something obvious:
No?! Really? You're quick / clever!

The language of sarcasm
There are no fixed rules about what language to use when being sarcastic, but the following features are quite common (but this language is used when people aren't being sarcastic too!):

Tag questions:
Of course, you're the real expert at driving, aren't you?
'Yes' ... 'because':
You can use this to disagree or argue with someone by seeming to agree:
A: Slow down! You're driving too fast!
B: Yeah right, 'cause you never drive too fast, do you?
'I forgot':
A: Slow down! You're driving too fast!
B: Sorry, I forgot you were the expert driver! How many times have you crashed in the last year?
'If' ... 'must':
Well if you read it on the Internet it must be true!

Make it clear that you are being sarcastic
It's really important that your conversation partner realises that you are being sarcastic. Here are a couple of ways of doing this:
Exaggerate your feelings using strong words and a lively intonation. So if something bad happens, instead of saying
Good, I'm glad that's happened
try
Great! That's just what we need!
People will also sometimes use old-fashioned English to exaggerate:
Gosh, you're quick!
I say, that's a surprise! http://www.bbc.co.uk/worldservice/learning...se/page13.shtml
Sometimes, the situation will make it obvious that you are being sarcastic and you don't need to worry about people misunderstanding you. But if you are worried that people might misunderstand you, then after your sarcastic comment, say
Just kidding! or
I'm only joking! or
I'm sorry! ... I'm just being sarcastic.
If you want to be sarcastic in writing (for example in an email), try putting an exclamation mark in brackets after your sarcastic comment, like this:
So then we visited an enormous steam train museum and you can just imagine what fun that was(!)
WHAT HAVE YOU LEARNT?
Quiz
For each statement, choose an appropriate sarcastic response.
Flash not working? You can download a pdf version of the quiz at the bottom of the page.
sky of mind
learnt?
happymisanthropy
Do they have a remedial course?
karen
QUOTE(sky of mind @ Wednesday, 5 March 2008, 9:23 pm) *
learnt?

Yes. I's called 'English'. Do try to keep up! tongue.gif

QUOTE(happymisanthropy @ Wednesday, 5 March 2008, 10:24 pm) *
Do they have a remedial course?


That was the remedial course. laugh.gif

Sooner, please! Giving my secrets away like like this? I'm so disappointed. wry2.gif


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meljomur
I think after being married to a glaswegian for 9 years, I am pretty well versed in the art of British sarcasm.

I never knew it was something so desirable over on this side of the Atlantic, darn I seemed to have missed an opportunity here... wink.gif
sky of mind
Now THAT was funny! dry.gif
meljomur
QUOTE(sky of mind @ Thursday, 6 March 2008, 7:31 am) *
Now THAT was funny! dry.gif


Sorry??
seuss
just saw 'hot fuzz'... now THAT was funny!!!!! laugh.gif clap.gif thumbup.gif
seuss
QUOTE(meljomur @ Thursday, 6 March 2008, 12:46 pm) *
Sorry??

maybe sky failed the course?

I believe that was an attempt at sarcasm(?) unsure.gif
karen
You're doing very well guys. Keep it up! rolleyes.gif












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sky of mind
QUOTE(meljomur @ Thursday, 6 March 2008, 9:46 am) *
Sorry??




You have forgotten our lesson in sarcasm already?
karen
QUOTE(sky of mind @ Thursday, 6 March 2008, 2:33 pm) *
You have forgotten our lesson in sarcasm already?


The correct response,Sky, is 'That's quite all right'. wink.gif
sky of mind
QUOTE(karen @ Thursday, 6 March 2008, 12:38 pm) *
The correct response,Sky, is 'That's quite all right'. wink.gif




Oh bloody hell! I've managed to bollox the thing again!
BRILLIANT!
karen
QUOTE(sky of mind @ Thursday, 6 March 2008, 2:42 pm) *
Oh bloody hell! I've managed to bollox the thing again!
BRILLIANT!


clap.gif clap.gif clap.gif Now you're getting it! Well done.

No sarcasm in this one.... or is there..? tinfoilhat.gif
meljomur
I was just taking the piss, because I thought you were slagging me off!
POAC
Three words: Beans For Breakfast

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karen
QUOTE(POAC @ Thursday, 6 March 2008, 9:41 pm) *
Three words: Beans For Breakfast

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Beans for breakfast? No. Beans as part of a full English breakfast? Works for some. tongue.gif

(A poor effort I know, but you try being sarcastic about beans! huh.gif )
Boot
I'd rather eat beans than bangers for breakfast, a bland squishy psuedo sausage.
Fabfrog
What if bangers ate beans?
That would be a bloody lot.
karen
QUOTE(Boot @ Friday, 7 March 2008, 8:58 am) *
I'd rather eat beans than bangers for breakfast, a bland squishy psuedo sausage.


Speaking as a former meat-eater I have to defend bangers here! If you have never tried Cumberland sausage, or Linconshire sausage, or even chapalata's, you really have not tried proper British bangers! Those plastic things they sell in supermarkets really are no substitute.
Boot
I had them in a hotel in London, I did not enjoy them at all.
sky of mind
QUOTE(Boot @ Friday, 7 March 2008, 8:46 am) *
I had them in a hotel in London, I did not enjoy them at all.




Then again, some people over that way eat haggis, and they claim to like it!
seuss
QUOTE(sky of mind @ Friday, 7 March 2008, 1:08 pm) *
Then again, some people over that way eat haggis, and they claim to like it!

don't even start bringng the scots into the issue...
meljomur
QUOTE(seuss @ Friday, 7 March 2008, 2:13 pm) *
don't even start bringng the scots into the issue...



Oh I have two words for that cullen skink!!

Its not just for breakfast anymore.
sky of mind
QUOTE(meljomur @ Friday, 7 March 2008, 3:54 pm) *
Oh I have two words for that cullen skink!!

Its not just for breakfast anymore.




Actually, that sounds and looks quite good!
A nice dairy base chowder.

Beats the hell outta Lutefisk!
meljomur
QUOTE(sky of mind @ Friday, 7 March 2008, 6:26 pm) *
Actually, that sounds and looks quite good!
A nice dairy base chowder.

Beats the hell outta Lutefisk!


Not if it is served to you at 8am for breakfast (its a breakfast food in Scotland) by your new mother-in-law, after you may have had a little too much Scottish whiskey the night before. I will spare you the emotion avatar here...

Guess we have gotten away from the sarcasm aspect of this topic.
Boot
QUOTE(meljomur @ Friday, 7 March 2008, 11:02 pm) *
Guess we have gotten away from the sarcasm aspect of this topic.


No, not at all.
sky of mind
QUOTE(Boot @ Saturday, 8 March 2008, 3:51 pm) *
No, not at all.




Gee, ya think?


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karen
Well, friends, it's been a fascinating discussion. Thanks for all your insight. I'm truly overwhelmed that you take such a keen interest in my culture. clap.gif



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Kate...
ukslang is a wonderful treasure trove.

Hope you throw it down, from time to time, Karen.

One thing I noticed about this forum, and maybe especially in this thread, is the signature images have a way of interfering with the short and snappy dialogue. I'm a newbie, and I suppose that gives me a fresh eye, but I also don't know the history of the signature images. smile.gif Or, to observe, and then to ask in another way ... is there a control feature I can select to allow me to read the dialogue without the signature images?
karen
QUOTE(Kate... @ Sunday, 9 March 2008, 7:32 am) *
ukslang is a wonderful treasure trove.

Hope you throw it down, from time to time, Karen.

One thing I noticed about this forum, and maybe especially in this thread, is the signature images have a way of interfering with the short and snappy dialogue. I'm a newbie, and I suppose that gives me a fresh eye, but I also don't know the history of the signature images. smile.gif Or, to observe, and then to ask in another way ... is there a control feature I can select to allow me to read the dialogue without the signature images?


Not that I'm aware of, sorry. But I wouldn't worry too much about it - you'll be skipping past the sig's before you know it. - Except mine, of course, which is a link to my own forum. wink.gif

On the UK slang; yes, it gets dropped in from time to time, just to confuse people. biggrin.gif
Kate...
Hi, Karen-

Thanks for the tip on your forum. Looks like you've got lots going on over there.

The first ukslang that I read, and found endearing, was "me duck" from a Staffordshire poster. I don't think I could string it together in a sentence, but I think it goes something like this: You've got all the signs of a good egg, me duck. biggrin.gif
POAC
QUOTE(Kate... @ Sunday, 9 March 2008, 7:32 am) *
ukslang is a wonderful treasure trove.

Hope you throw it down, from time to time, Karen.

One thing I noticed about this forum, and maybe especially in this thread, is the signature images have a way of interfering with the short and snappy dialogue. I'm a newbie, and I suppose that gives me a fresh eye, but I also don't know the history of the signature images. smile.gif Or, to observe, and then to ask in another way ... is there a control feature I can select to allow me to read the dialogue without the signature images?


Click on "my controls" up top and then on the left, scroll down and click "Board Settings" under the "options" category. Then switch "Do you wish to view members signatures when reading topics?" to "NO". There ya go. =-)
Kate...
Thanks, Karen.

Much better. wink.gif
karen
QUOTE(Kate... @ Wednesday, 12 March 2008, 1:11 pm) *
Thanks, Karen.

Much better. wink.gif


It is the eminently pretty and cuddly TJ (POAC) you should be thanking, but I'm sure he wont mind me saying "you're welcome" on his behalf. lol wink.gif
sky of mind
Hey! I think I'm offended! eek.gif




in·sane /ɪnˈseɪn/ –adjective
1. not sane; not of sound mind; mentally deranged.
2. of, pertaining to, or characteristic of a person who is mentally deranged: insane actions; an insane asylum.
3. utterly senseless: an insane plan.
4. repeating the same actions while hoping for or expecting a different result


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karen
QUOTE(sky of mind @ Wednesday, 12 March 2008, 7:00 pm) *
Hey! I think I'm offended! eek.gif


in·sane /ɪnˈseɪn/ –adjective
1. not sane; not of sound mind; mentally deranged.
2. of, pertaining to, or characteristic of a person who is mentally deranged: insane actions; an insane asylum.
3. utterly senseless: an insane plan.
4. repeating the same actions while hoping for or expecting a different result


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Kate...
Oh dear. ph34r.gif

I've played a good game of speed posting from time to time, and that requires a stripped down screen, plus some firmly held points of view, and a fundamental disagreement.

So, well, here I go, masking the avatar function too. lol.
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