Whoaa... So this is where some of the Thom's crowd hangs their hat.

Thanks Don Smith for the Directions.

I see your Conservative user guidelines and concede I am in your house and will act accordingly with all the Boy Scout virtues I can muster.

Welcome Loganthor.
I like your posting on Thom's site.

Feel free to leave the trolls behind you, though...

Thanks, a little creepy... Are you a lurker or poster at Thoms?

As Far as Trolls. I personally do not "hang" with any. I do however know a couple assholes that have been labeled as troll.
I do not subscribe to the notion of labels like Trolls or I would have been one years ago along with a whole host of equally colorful adjectives.

I find those who generally Apply label have issues themselves and ideological blinder on.

That's what's known as the famous "troll mirror maneuver." This time you get it ahead of time.

I assure anyone reading this, until that formula was applied to him, the thought never occurred to him.

Well, Loganthor, here you are. And we can thank Don Smith.

And there I was, just kicked back in my hammock under the palm trees, enjoying myself, on vacation in the Bahamas.

I personally have no issue with the "troll" label.
Calling a spade a spade is a part of what critical thought is all about.

Please do not let me disrupt your Hideaway. I will try not to challenge any of your theories in front of the new people.


Famous? Yet I have never heard of such a statement and considering Thoms Vast threads on the matter, that certainly is perplexing.

I can see why you may like this place. So far seems like a fairly decent group of people and you do not have that ever looming feeling of being watch by the moderator.

Not here to pick any fights with you. Poly and Mel are driving me crazy with thier vacuous rhetoric. You can have all the Eco topic you want without my particpation. UET... well that also depends you know. Contempt charges from congress.... Good start.

Have a lovely day.

I concede there are in fact trolls in the world and have witnessed them on both sides of the aisle. However, I find the common practice of applying the term is merely to those a person does not like as a way to limit discussion or justify a refusal to answer questions.

Like all words, they don't mean much if not used correctly!

Last I checked, I still requires a minimum of two to Communicate. So while the words must be used correctly, they must also be received correctly. While I strive to improve on the former, I have little control of the latter.

Incorrect

"Any time," as the Predator echoed in the movie.

I've dealt with your vacuous nonsense for over two years, you've yet to "challenge" anything that I've ever written.

Don't worry, I'll just lay back here under the palm trees in my hammock, sipping my margaritas. Maybe I'll play a little Go with some new friends. This board can handle anything you dish out. And where is your pal? Or have I already spotted his fractured syntax and slithering illusions of meaning lurking in the grass?....

Those who assume to be the smartest in the room, quite often discover the truth.

Sit back and pay it no never-mind Ren. Enjoy the sunshine, swing happily in your hammock. Trolls are good for a little entertainment, but they seldom last too long round here.

The lady knows the truth.

I have all the confidence in the world in you folks. I've already seen your work.

Ah, happy day, liquid sunshine under the fur trees.

Don't sweat it. This forum is heavily monitored and quick with the ban features.

I'm not concerned in the least!

hardly...

Dont mind Ren and I. We are an old married couple.

Now that merits a "hardly."

It's clear to me these folks don't need any coaching from me, but if you have even the tiniest glimmer of sense, you'll leave what went on at Thom''s board out of this. Sue and Bill are not here to step in between us. I'd just as soon leave you alone, but don't push it.

oooooooh...

sounds like divorce proceedings are in the works...

Ren, feel free to unleash the hounds...

I'd love to see a torture advocate get stomped by a new member with a brain and a soul...

By all means Ren, if you have something worth saying, please be our guest and share!
Everybody loves a little drama, even those that say they don't.

I appreciate the sentiments, but right at the moment it's kind of like watching Dave pull the plug on HAL the ship's computer until it gets down to "daisy, daisy." He's going through all his little routines.

It's not about saying anything, he'll avoid that with me. It's about tactics, and looks to me you've all got that part down. I'm really impressed.

If he leaves me alone, I'll leave him alone.

OK Ren. Enjoy the show, while it lasts.
I don't think Thor, (lord, did he make that up all by hisself?) will be around too long.

I have no idea what goes on in that guy's mind, but that was the name he came to Thom's with over two years ago now.

It was short, though, wasn't it? Even if I wanted to I wouldn't have had time to say anything, lol.

Want to watch some fun, check into Thom's and see what he says about this board soon. I assure you, he is not responsible for what's happened. Not in any way whatsoever.

wouldn't his comments be rather predictable?

Yeah, but its the swagger that goes with it, the cock of the walk as he calls himself. I guess I have a strange sense of irony.

I'm quite willing to bet a fairly large amount of money, based on the mans use of phalic in his various names and self descriptions, that this is a short man. He may well drive a big ass 4x4 pick up.

Short man over compensation is quite amusing.
And then add the magical powers of the internet, where anybody can be anyone they wanna be.....

He'll tell everyone who'll listen that I ban anyone who disagrees with me and people with common sense won't believe it and will possibly venture over to see what a troll-free zone looks like.

My Journey Through The Old American Century Forum by Loganthor

That's awesome!

edit to ad:
Wow. Now he's having a conversation with himself. "Please please somebody pay attention to me. Negative attention is better than no attention!!!"

POAC, if you travel the net then there are plenty of people that have conversations with themselves.

Do you feel at home?

From the Hartmann board:


Also, interesting to see someone use "ass" as a proper noun.

Really? Tell more of the "net" you speak of. It sounds fascinating.

Well, Dada is gone. He was really Ronald Rutherford, a well-known borderline sociopath, according to other message board admins that I've spoken with. Normally I wouldn't disclose his name, but yesterday he registered a sock-puppet with that as his display name. I'm assuming he was going to resume the harassment he's known for and then sign in under his real name and thus shock us all (In his mind). So I didn't really disclose any personal information that he hadn't already made available publicly in the memberlist, but I did spoil his big surprise.

Killjoy. You extremist libs are all alike.

You'll be sorry. Loganthor is going to show you for the hypocrite you are!

Seriously, you have to wonder about guys like that. Spends an entire day trolling a forum until he gets banned, then goes home and writes about it to himself. That's not healthy. And his creepy little side-kick that follows him in to do the same? Someone whose hobbies include going into online message boards to say wildly unpopular things... that's screwed up. But that's a troll for you.

I think he IS the creepy sidekick.

He apparently thought my post above was serious. He's crowing about it over there. These guys always have an irony deficiency.

Here's how Loganthor just used Maxanne's remark at this link ( just realized I could get banned for copying anyone's words but my own from that board):

Loganthor

He treats it like it's Maxanne scolding POAC. It's been a trip with this crew.

First troll I've seen that actually went beyond simple deception stepped on out into outright lies.


Again, he thinks he's the smartest in the room. Such unearned arrogance.
Or perhaps he does all this because he's paid to do it, and doesn't really care?


How long has Thor been blathering on like this on the Hartman forum?

There's too much to tell about all this, but I'm enjoying watching him attempt to come down on me again over there.

You mean on this subject, or just in general?

POAC Community: Ronald , could you take a seat, please?

Ronald : Wuh well, sure.

POAC Community: Ronald , we have to have a very difficult conversation.

Ronald : Wull what is it?

POAC Community: Well, in the, in the few days since you joined POAC, you've really stepped up as a friend and "filled the gap."

Ronald : Well uh, it's my pleasure! I love bein' you guys' new friend.

POAC Community: Yes. Well, Ronald , it's just not working out.

Ronald : Nnnot working out?

POAC Community: I'm afraid we're gonna have to let you go, as our friend. You're just tooo...Lame

Ronald : Well, but ah I can get better.

POAC Commnity: Ronald , you just don't really fit in with us here. We think it's best for all of us if you for friendship opportunites elsewhere.

POAC Commnity: But we certainly want to thank you for all your hard work and attempts at being our friend, lame as they were.

Ronald : Huh, but ah I thought we were gettin' along... great. Heh ah I thought we were really havin' fun together.

POAC Community: Yes, well, we weren't.

Ronald : Please, fellas, uh don't fire me.

POAC Community: We're sorry Ronald . Our mind is made up. But we certainly wanna thank you for coming by. You know the way out, right?

POAC Community:Phew. Hm, I think he took that pretty well, I think.

Antifascist: Who cares? But watch out if you live near him. He has been know to unscrew the top of salt shaker for miles around his house. He's....well...his real identity is Professor Chaos and his sidekick is General Disaray!!!!

Sorry, Rutherford but it just didn't work out.

How long has Thor been on the Hartman forum?

Forgive me if I don't click the link to his nuttery. I've seen it all before and I just can't muster the interest to see it again.

Spread the word far and wide, fill the tubes with the news.....


The POAC forums are a place for civility and worthwhile discussion,
where blatant bullshit and general nut jobbery will not be tolerated,
except as long as it entertains us.


Let it also be known, that the person who thinks he's the smartest person in the room,
almost always is not.

Since November of 2005.

He teamed up with Ronald Rutherford about January 2006. Ronald joined the board In July 2005, I believe he has several sock puppets probably some before and some after he joined. His first post was in September. Ronald was clever, and what I'd call "smarmy" (my friend Kate labeled him "Eddie Haskell" from leave it to Beaver).

Nevertheless, they both caused enough problems that they were finally banned about nine months or so later. Ronald was banned for something defamatory of me he did at his blog with my words he took from the board.

At that point, for tangentially related reasons about board administration policies, Thom lost all his experienced moderators, and the Adminstrator he'd given control to, and just one moderator, have been running the board. Sue is distant, relatively hands off, we hardly see the other moderator. The other moderator said recently to someone who complained about the trolls, "we haven't had a troll on this board in over a year now."

When they allowed Loganthor and Ronald back on the board, about November 2006 and January 2007 respectively... well, I could give you the details of how the two of them did it, it would be lengthy and boring, but they began to use the board rules to control the board for themselves. Those of us who could see what they were up to got "special" attention. It's important to neutralize the eyes of the board, and the administrator played right into their hands in the way she enforced the rules.

That's really unfortunate. A similar thing happened to Mike Malloy's board years ago. The result was the same: most of the good people from there came here. The trolls followed and were banned. Sadly for the Mike Malloy board, the admin was a big enough sucker to actually make one of the trolls a moderator. I kid you not.

forgot to add:
http://www.oldamericancentury.org/bb/index...showtopic=18973

Update if anyone is interested.

Sue N, Thom's administrator, seems to have removed Loganthor's thread about this board. It says "moved" but I can't find it.