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POAC
I'm getting a free review copy from the publisher. Hooray!!
happymisanthropy
who?
Rousseau
DON'T TOUCH IT !!!!!



Stupidity and crushing, desperate idiocy has NOT yet been scientifically proven that it can't be transfered through contact with possibly contaminated objects ! Be a lert....

Medical science is working fast on attempting to isolate Goldberkitis from its roots as an offspring of Nutus Facisticus.
Researchers have expressed concern to the WHO about victims who may have been exposed to early, pre-publishing copies of Goldberk's opus "How I no that fashysts are not konservatives becos they are libruls", but most victims appear to have become radical anti-capitalist freedom fighters and have gone underground to work out their target practice on Jonah's smug, smirking neocon visage that was carelessly left on the dust-jacket*....



* Most books have a dust-jacket to protect them from dust, this is one of the rare ones that needs placing in a dusty area, far from sanity and lucid thinkers, to accumulate dust. It will improve with a kilo or ten of dust on it. Further, the dust will actually improve the factual content and accuracy of Jonah Goldberk's erstwhile attempt to prove that some people will buy any old shit. Absolutely ANY old shit.
Possibly this is why his publisher is giving them away....

It's a pity the book has no foundation, because you could use it to construct refugee houses for Palestinians. Jonah would get a little stiffie over this worthy cause of his shill, shrill little brown-book.


TJ, take care if you use it as outhouse paper, I fear it may leave suspicious stains, and the book is so thin on fact and corroborative evidence that your fingers may go straight through it's flimsy sheets (printed on recycled PNAC "thousand year yikes" pamphlets........yug
POAC
QUOTE(Rousseau @ Friday, 25 January 2008, 3:27 pm) *
DON'T TOUCH IT !!!!!
Stupidity and crushing, desperate idiocy has NOT yet been scientifically proven that it can't be transfered through contact with possibly contaminated objects ! Be a lert....

Medical science is working fast on attempting to isolate Goldberkitis from its roots as an offspring of Nutus Facisticus.
Researchers have expressed concern to the WHO about victims who may have been exposed to early, pre-publishing copies of Goldberk's opus "How I no that fashysts are not konservatives becos they are libruls", but most victims appear to have become radical anti-capitalist freedom fighters and have gone underground to work out their target practice on Jonah's smug, smirking neocon visage that was carelessly left on the dust-jacket*....
* Most books have a dust-jacket to protect them from dust, this is one of the rare ones that needs placing in a dusty area, far from sanity and lucid thinkers, to accumulate dust. It will improve with a kilo or ten of dust on it. Further, the dust will actually improve the factual content and accuracy of Jonah Goldberk's erstwhile attempt to prove that some people will buy any old shit. Absolutely ANY old shit.
Possibly this is why his publisher is giving them away....

It's a pity the book has no foundation, because you could use it to construct refugee houses for Palestinians. Jonah would get a little stiffie over this worthy cause of his shill, shrill little brown-book.
TJ, take care if you use it as outhouse paper, I fear it may leave suspicious stains, and the book is so thin on fact and corroborative evidence that your fingers may go straight through it's flimsy sheets (printed on recycled PNAC "thousand year yikes" pamphlets........yug


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who?


Jonah Goldberg's "Liberal Fascism: How a NRO contributor can make money in the liberal bashing industry"
Antifascist
David Neiwert is a freelance journalist based in Seattle that keeps watch on Rightwing fascist groups in Ameican. There is a huge group in the Pacific Northwest. I have posted a number of articles by David on the nature of fascism. He has done an almost chapter by chapter critique of the Jonah Goldberg's book and even of the author's sourcing.

Also, Sara Robinson worked as an editor or columnist and also has contributed many articles of fascism.
sky of mind
QUOTE(POAC @ Friday, 25 January 2008, 3:08 pm) *
Jonah Goldberg's "Liberal Fascism: How a NRO contributor can make money in the liberal bashing industry"




NRO = Nobody Remotely Original
POAC
QUOTE(Antifascist @ Saturday, 26 January 2008, 2:12 pm) *
David Neiwert is a freelance journalist based in Seattle that keeps watch on Rightwing fascist groups in Ameican. There is a huge group in the Pacific Northwest. I have posted a number of articles by David on the nature of fascism. He has done an almost chapter by chapter critique of the Jonah Goldberg's book and even of the author's sourcing.

Also, Sara Robinson worked as an editor or columnist and also has contributed many articles of fascism.




Well Dayummmm! That's by far the best review I've read yet. Kinda takes the wind out of my sails for my upcoming review. That was excellent.
seuss
why is the topic title spelled properly, and the anouncements and board issues headlines missing the "g" in Goldber(g)?
POAC
QUOTE(seuss @ Saturday, 26 January 2008, 6:38 pm) *
why is the topic title spelled properly, and the anouncements and board issues headlines missing the "g" in Goldber(g)?




The child laborers I have editing some of the website haven't finished typing class yet. Give 'em a freakin break!

~OR~

I had to edit the headline and add the "G" after I missed it the first time. Apparently the "announcements" doesn't reflect post-editing.
Antifascist
QUOTE(POAC @ Saturday, 26 January 2008, 2:26 pm) *
Well Dayummmm! That's by far the best review I've read yet. Kinda takes the wind out of my sails for my upcoming review. That was excellent.

Yes, David is a pretty good writer. Don't let his review stop you! I am sure you can add to it and enhance any review. In fact, David's devastating review of Goldberg's book is in large part applying Robert O. Paxton's definition of fascism ( Paxton's book is entitled, The Anatomy of Fascism) to Goldberg's flawed thesis that fascism is a Left wing phenomenon. Goldberg is sensitive these days so he might even respond back with an counter-attack--a personal attack--which is the only kind of response he gives.
happymisanthropy
QUOTE(POAC @ Saturday, 26 January 2008, 5:09 pm) *
The child laborers I have editing some of the website haven't finished typing class yet. Give 'em a freakin break!

~OR~

I had to edit the headline and add the "G" after I missed it the first time. Apparently the "announcements" doesn't reflect post-editing.


POAC
QUOTE(happymisanthropy @ Saturday, 26 January 2008, 10:46 pm) *



OMG! LOL. I didn't notice what she was working on at first!
POAC
Jonah's book is here. It's huge. Now i know why he responds to every critical review with, "I don't believe you read the whole thing!" Well, I probably won't.
Rousseau
ph34r.gif

He KNOWS with clarity and precision that people haven't read his opus because pages 52 through to 390 are repetitions of the first 10 pages, with a funny joke about a Jew, a Palestinian and an Irishman on page 263.
Thus, he can denounce with that peculiar sneer, as he prods his glasses back onto his oily schnoze, that "Nyyaahh nyaahh ! You HAVEN'T read MY book..."

Cunning little swine.

I guess it would make a good draught-stopper...actually, no, it's too full of holes. Maybe a fly-swatter (a cumbersome WMD for insects...) ? Boat anchor ?
I doubt if it would burn well, he's possibly had it printed on flayed Arab skin, due to the rising cost of paper.

Ah well, at last someone who thinks colonialism was a spiffing wheeze and the jolly old nig-nogs didn't know their good fortune.

What a putz. rolleyes.gif
Antifascist
QUOTE(Rousseau @ Friday, 1 February 2008, 1:17 pm) *
ph34r.gif

He KNOWS with clarity and precision that people haven't read his opus because pages 52 through to 390 are repetitions of the first 10 pages, with a funny joke about a Jew, a Palestinian and an Irishman on page 263.

Or you can put it next to the toilet and have 390 days supply of toilet paper.
Rousseau
I wouldn't even wipe my ass with it. wry2.gif
Such honor is beneath such a contemptable tome of indulgent verbatim.

It's already full of shit, too.

Plus the ink would stain your cheeks.
You may even end up with the smirking image of Goldberk spead across your posterior, eek.gif and this could have serious affect on any intimacy with other primates in the next few years.....
POAC


This is one of the funniest threads we have.
seuss
QUOTE(POAC @ Friday, 1 February 2008, 5:40 pm) *
This is one of the funniest threads we have.


speaking of funny, when you're done, donate the fucker to George Carlin so he has material to replace his robbed brilliance this bastard twisted to create a book full of fetid, slimy, overgrown puss bubbles that resemble the face of rush limbaugh... or maybe it's his ass... It's so hard to tell...
Jesus!
Jonah Goldberg?

Brownshirt.
Antifascist
QUOTE(Antifascist @ Friday, 1 February 2008, 1:47 pm) *
Or you can put it next to the toilet and have 390 days supply of toilet paper.

Wait a minute! The pages are counted back and front so there is only a 195 day supply. It's a ripoff anyway you look at it!
maxanne
You could make a lot of paper planes!
sky of mind
It'll wind up here....







Recycling technology has advanced such that they now have no problem removing bullshit from printed material.
seuss
QUOTE(sky of mind @ Saturday, 2 February 2008, 12:19 am) *
It'll wind up here....

Recycling technology has advanced such that they now have no problem removing bullshit from printed material.

so I'm guesing that's the BS?, or is it the printed material?
sky of mind
http://rawstory.com/news/2007/Amazon_categ...under_0204.html


Goldberg's Liberal Fascism
filed under 'Parodies' at Amazon

Michael Roston
Published: Monday February 4, 2008



Jonah Goldberg's new book Liberal Fascism: The Secret History of the American Left, From Mussolini to the Politics of Meaning has provoked controversy and dispute in a variety of media. But at internet commerce giant Amazon.com, Goldberg's critics appear to have advanced a new front in their battle against the book: having it classified as a "parody."

In a Monday morning post at his National Review blog, Goldberg complained about the book's placement on the Amazon pages.

"Over at Amazon, my book's page no longer displays its rank in 'politics,' but in 'parodies,'" the columnist notes in a post with the subject heading, "More Amazon Chicanery."

He adds, "I'm sure it's just an honest mistake."

A screen cap of Amazon's placement of the book among its best-selling parodies, just above the The Onion's new atlas Our Dumb World, is provided below:



Critics of Goldberg's book have actively sought to undermine the book at Amazon. Bloggers have taken note of the meta-tags attached to the book's Amazon entry, such as "wingnut welfare," "i can has job mom," and "if michelle malkin is over your head."

Additionally, prior to the book's release, hackers changed the entry's subtitle on Amazon to read, "The Totalitarian Temptation from When I Got My Advance Until I finally Hand in the Manuscript in 2011," according to Publishers Weekly.

However, while the book is atop the parodies list, it also ranks high on the politics list at Amazon. The book ranks #30 on Amazon overall.

Goldberg's book has provoked controversy, including a rambunctious January appearance on Jon Stewart's The Daily Show. In the segment, Stewart took the unusual step of noting that he was incapable of airing the interview without heavy editing because of the length of his argument with the writer.

In his exchange with Goldberg, Stewart slammed the author's reasoning.

"That's literally like saying mustaches are fascist [because] Hitler had a mustache," the comedian remarked in the interview after reflecting on Goldberg's argument that some prominent liberals in the United States expressed sympathies with European fascist governments in the early 20th century.


POAC
QUOTE(sky of mind @ Monday, 4 February 2008, 2:27 pm) *
http://rawstory.com/news/2007/Amazon_categ...under_0204.html
Goldberg's Liberal Fascism
filed under 'Parodies' at Amazon

Michael Roston
Published: Monday February 4, 2008

Jonah Goldberg's new book Liberal Fascism: The Secret History of the American Left, From Mussolini to the Politics of Meaning has provoked controversy and dispute in a variety of media. But at internet commerce giant Amazon.com, Goldberg's critics appear to have advanced a new front in their battle against the book: having it classified as a "parody."

In a Monday morning post at his National Review blog, Goldberg complained about the book's placement on the Amazon pages.

"Over at Amazon, my book's page no longer displays its rank in 'politics,' but in 'parodies,'" the columnist notes in a post with the subject heading, "More Amazon Chicanery."

He adds, "I'm sure it's just an honest mistake."

A screen cap of Amazon's placement of the book among its best-selling parodies, just above the The Onion's new atlas Our Dumb World, is provided below:



Critics of Goldberg's book have actively sought to undermine the book at Amazon. Bloggers have taken note of the meta-tags attached to the book's Amazon entry, such as "wingnut welfare," "i can has job mom," and "if michelle malkin is over your head."

Additionally, prior to the book's release, hackers changed the entry's subtitle on Amazon to read, "The Totalitarian Temptation from When I Got My Advance Until I finally Hand in the Manuscript in 2011," according to Publishers Weekly.

However, while the book is atop the parodies list, it also ranks high on the politics list at Amazon. The book ranks #30 on Amazon overall.

Goldberg's book has provoked controversy, including a rambunctious January appearance on Jon Stewart's The Daily Show. In the segment, Stewart took the unusual step of noting that he was incapable of airing the interview without heavy editing because of the length of his argument with the writer.

In his exchange with Goldberg, Stewart slammed the author's reasoning.

"That's literally like saying mustaches are fascist [because] Hitler had a mustache," the comedian remarked in the interview after reflecting on Goldberg's argument that some prominent liberals in the United States expressed sympathies with European fascist governments in the early 20th century.


Nice!
sky of mind
seems Amazon doesn't consider Goldy's book to be serious literature
Jimmy
Toilet paper.

248 big thick sheets.

Boot
Or chuck it at jerks.
Rousseau
I'm sorry, Boot, but threatening to kill people by lobbing unreadable and turgid books which weigh a ton at them is against forum etiquette. wry2.gif

Because, make no bones about it, someone not killed by death outright by the crushing impact of Goldberk's weighty opus, would be scarred for life, and may suffer debilitating mental corrossion if they happen to glimpse a page of his frothing, idiotic prose.

And you call yourself a GOOD Mormon !! eek.gif

Thank goodness you aren't Legion, because the idea of flights of Mormon bombers dropping payloads of Jonah Goldberk's nutty book on screaming and fleeing brown people leaves me with a terrible mental image...........



And to think I thought you were such a nice guy....
lark
Eric Fromm's Fear of Freedom makes some really good points about how fascism's arch-nemsis is liberalism so how you could have liberal fascism or fascist liberalism is totally beyond the realms of credulity.
sky of mind
QUOTE(lark @ Monday, 18 February 2008, 4:55 pm) *
Eric Fromm's Fear of Freedom makes some really good points about how fascism's arch-nemsis is liberalism so how you could have liberal fascism or fascist liberalism is totally beyond the realms of credulity.




Of course it is. That's exactly the reason these nut jobs make such a connection.
They know it's BS, but some people will buy into it. I think, mostly desperate people that choose to ignore truth, rather than shake the foundations of their false reality.
Boot
QUOTE(Rousseau @ Wednesday, 6 February 2008, 11:25 am) *
I'm sorry, Boot, but threatening to kill people by lobbing unreadable and turgid books which weigh a ton at them is against forum etiquette. wry2.gif

Because, make no bones about it, someone not killed by death outright by the crushing impact of Goldberk's weighty opus, would be scarred for life, and may suffer debilitating mental corrossion if they happen to glimpse a page of his frothing, idiotic prose.

And you call yourself a GOOD Mormon !! eek.gif

Thank goodness you aren't Legion, because the idea of flights of Mormon bombers dropping payloads of Jonah Goldberk's nutty book on screaming and fleeing brown people leaves me with a terrible mental image...........
And to think I thought you were such a nice guy....


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Yes, fear me, for I am terrifying.
lark
I read a great book once called The Intelligent Persons Guide To Fascism which posited that one of the central aspects of fascism was a new conception of good and evil based upon an in and an out group, I think that conservatives in the US have been working for years to make liberals the out group and they're succeeding.

To the point were I'm thinking that fascism will arrive in the future disguised as "anti-fascism"
POAC
QUOTE(lark @ Thursday, 21 February 2008, 3:06 pm) *
I read a great book once called The Intelligent Persons Guide To Fascism which posited that one of the central aspects of fascism was a new conception of good and evil based upon an in and an out group, I think that conservatives in the US have been working for years to make liberals the out group and they're succeeding.

To the point were I'm thinking that fascism will arrive in the future disguised as "anti-fascism"


I need to read that. That's dead-on!
lark
QUOTE(POAC @ Thursday, 21 February 2008, 3:41 pm) *
I need to read that. That's dead-on!


I dont know if its still available but I do know that its a mixed book, it argues another trait of fascism is the activist version of politics versus limited version of politics.

Limited politics being constitutions, parliaments, career politicians and private lives and private economies, certainly meritorious but if contra this is fascism then feminists, socialists, ecologists, some liberals and some conservatives are all fascists too.

The in group and out group thing I believe is very, very accurate, although I wouldnt say that any political faction that invests a lot in that sort of worldview is automatically fascist, it could be militant or partisan, and I think that that model of politics being so prevailent in the US could have a couple of explanations other than creeping fascism.

For instance people might just have internalised the scripts or models of college life or college politics, socialisation, in the sociological sense of the word as social learning, conditioning, makes people shape up in a particular way.
Jubal
QUOTE(lark @ Thursday, 21 February 2008, 4:06 pm) *
I read a great book once called The Intelligent Persons Guide To Fascism which posited that one of the central aspects of fascism was a new conception of good and evil based upon an in and an out group, I think that conservatives in the US have been working for years to make liberals the out group and they're succeeding.

To the point were I'm thinking that fascism will arrive in the future disguised as "anti-fascism"

I'm not sure I'd ever read "The Intelligent Person's Guide" to anything. Surely a truly intelligent person would see right through the sales-promoting flattery imbedded in the title?
Antifascist
Well, Jubal, maybe we can find a book entitled, "Fascism For Dummies" if you don't like flattery.
Jubal
Edited for ennui.
lark
QUOTE(Jubal @ Friday, 22 February 2008, 6:39 am) *
I'm not sure I'd ever read "The Intelligent Person's Guide" to anything. Surely a truly intelligent person would see right through the sales-promoting flattery imbedded in the title?


Its just a title, what difference does it make to the content?
Jubal
QUOTE(lark @ Friday, 22 February 2008, 9:23 am) *
Its just a title, what difference does it make to the content?

Ummm... none, actually. I hope I didn't say anything that led you to believe it did make any difference to the content. I'm pretty sure I didn't.
lark
QUOTE(Jubal @ Friday, 22 February 2008, 8:26 am) *
Ummm... none, actually. I hope I didn't say anything that led you to believe it did make any difference to the content. I'm pretty sure I didn't.


Thought you were judging a book by its cover for a moment.
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