I just came across this book review.

It's a good read that may entice some of us to buy and read, but; also has enough accurate information to arouse those of us who don't have the time or money for the whole book. Especially when you consider that the price of gas will have risen by more than 24 cents a gallon by the time the book is delivered to your door

As we all know: such an increase will impact EVERYTHING from the price of tea in China to the cost of a loaf of bread at your local WalMart superstore.

Does anybody smell impending RECESSION OR DEPRESSION?

Our government is and has always been the most intrusive, destructive and divisive force in this lousy country.
Not only does our emperor have no clothes.......Our EMPIRE is also stark naked, as this book reveals.

With Bush at the helm: we have only 2 possible outcomes: the first being; that we will all starve to death. The second being that we all perish in a nuclear firestorm.

As for me? I prefer the latter Much quicker and painless. BRING 'EM ON

In 400 A.D. the Roman poet Rutilius Namatianus wrote, “To count up the glories of Rome is like counting the stars in the sky.” Only a decade later Rome, a city that seemed as eternal as the heavens, was sacked by the Visigoths, beginning a process of irreversible decline that culminated two centuries later in what many still describe “as the greatest catastrophe in western civilization.”
Even empires are not immune from the second law of thermodynamics.
http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase...clawcon.html#c1

Our downfall will not be remembered as a "catastrophe" as Rome was; but as a blessing by the majority of surviving historians....most of whom will be residents of the greater Asian continent because Bush will most assuredly bring down the entire western world in his self destructive lunacy and drug induced delusions of grandeur.

The Empire Has No Clothes: U.S. Foreign Policy Exposed
By Ivan Eland
The Independent Institute, 294 pages, 2004

Reviewed by Robert C. Cheeks

The Bush Foreign Policy is interventionist, unprincipled, and un-American. And that’s just the beginning.

President Bush’s Inaugural Address presents a bold approach to foreign policy that many pundits are calling Wilsonian, referring to President Woodrow Wilson’s utopian dream of ending war and bringing peace on a global scale. But a recent book by Dr. Ivan Eland, The Empire Has No Clothes, reminds us of the price of Wilsonian idealism.

Eland accurately points out that President Wilson’s successful effort to draw the United States into World War I, which was supposed to be “the war to end all wars,” had the deleterious effect of destroying the established European order, and resulted in the rise of both Adolph Hitler and Joseph Stalin. The Twentieth century’s butcher’s bill, because of Wilson’s “progressivism,” would be over 150 million dead.

And now, given the linkage between the massacre of 9/11 (as well as a twenty years of Islamic terrorist’s attacks on the “West”), the Iraq incursion, and the so-called “War on Terror,” the future remains nebulous. Bush’s vision may prove prophetic, or may be a disaster. But we know this: any policy that advocates foreign interventionism is a violation of the first principles of our republic.

The author’s historical overview touches on the failed empires of Greece, Rome, Germany, the Soviet Union, Great Britain, and Japan. He goes to great length in explaining the cost to citizens, in lives, wealth, and liberty, that results when government devolves from a federated republic, to a social democracy, to an imperialist power.

Eland’s book outlines this “devolution” of the United States. Our founding was predicated on the concept of a federated republic. Political power was purposefully diffused because the founders understood the intrinsic “nature of man,” i.e. they feared those who would “consolidate” power in the national government. The Constitution they provided very specifically defines the general government, details its enumerated powers, and with the addition of that delightful codicil, The Bill of Rights, leaves the bulk of power (not to mention sovereignty) in the hands of the states and the people. But the election of Abraham Lincoln, with his proclivity to usurp undelegated power, and the ensuing war that silenced the last of the “conservative” Americans, brought a sea change in American government that, in effect, laid the groundwork for not only an “imperial” presidency but also a social democracy.

By the end of the Nineteenth Century some corporate interests (railroads for example) were in collusion with the government at the expense of the taxpayers, and Progressives and liberals clamored for government regulation, adding the spurious allegation that certain corporations (Rockefeller and Carnegie) were engaged in “predatory pricing.” So government was enlisted to “help the little guy.” To say their efforts were a failure would be a bit of an understatement, but they did succeed in expanding the authority of the central government and its bureaucratic apparatus. And they established a precedent: the government would now oversee the welfare of the people.

The expansion of “social democracy” occurred simultaneously with rise to the imperial state. Lincoln set the ground work. President McKinley took us overseas with the Spanish/American War. Woodrow Wilson, ably supported by “liberal” Protestant clerics, intervened in Europe’s war in a vein effort to bring on a “New World Order.” Franklin Roosevelt expanded the power of the presidency and the federal bureaucracy, and is often accused of manipulating America’s entry in to World War Two.

But President Harry Truman was the first president to simply bypassed Congress and declared war on North Korea, although Congress didn’t seem to care all that much. I’m sure you’re familiar with the rest of our imperial history: Vietnam, Cambodia, Grenada, El Salvador, Nicaragua, Gulf I, Bosnia, Kosovo, Haiti, and now, Iraq. All of these military actions were ordered by the President of the United States without benefit of a Congressional declaration of war, in violation of the Constitution.

Dr. Eland spares neither the Democrats nor the Republicans, arguing that both parties, at least since the presidency of William McKinley, have engaged in the same virulent, nasty, heavy-handed, and addlepated foreign policy that has resulted in what revisionist historian, Harry Elmer Barnes, referred to as “perpetual war for perpetual peace.” Both parties have ignored the prescient warnings of the founders who spoke loudly against foreign interventions and entanglements, and the cost in lives and treasure have been enormous.

Eland’s two chapters Why Conservatives Should Be Against Empire, and Why Liberals Should Be Against Empire, are in-depth analysis of the philosophical foundations of these disparate ideologies and the application of their principles to the question of empire. The author takes delight in tweaking the nose of those liberals who remained hypocritically silent during President Clinton’s incursions in Bosnia, Kosovo, and Haiti, and the anti-empire conservatives who kept silent while the current President Bush invaded Iraq. Unfortunately, many Americans assume that the opposition to American interventionism is a “liberal” activity. Not so! An element of the “conservative” right has also engaged in opposition. Here I’m referring to the paleo-conservatives, who many argue are the last remaining conservatives in American politics.

Twenty-five years ago the paleocons almost won a seat in the halls of government but were denied when the Reagan Administration rejected the nomination of the brilliant Southern traditionalist, M.E. Bradford, as the Director of the National Endowment for the Humanities. In the ensuing fight they were crushed by the much better funded neocons and cast out of Washington. Later the paleocons and the Libertarians engaged in a messy, internecine, squabble and divorced.

Neocons moved into, and increasingly controled the Republican Party, while the paleocons retreated to the provinces to continue the fight, producing what many argue is the finest intellectual magazine in America, Chronicles. While paleocons look upon “liberals” with disdain, considering them uninformed, naïve, and misguided, they reserve their greatest antipathy for the despised neocons. For the neocons know the “truth” and have rejected it, opting instead for a virulent statist regime that seeks to create a “New World Order,” all of which violates the first principles of the republic. This cannot be forgiven, and the fight will not stop until the last paleocon has drawn his last breath. However, the opposition to the administration’s interventionist policies, be it left or right, have proved less then efficacious, and Dr. Eland tells us why.

Contemporary American interventionism may be the result of “public choice theory.” Eland writes that “the government itself can develop interests separate from its citizens. The government reflects the interests of powerful pressure groups and the interests of the bureaucracies and the bureaucrats in them.” Dr. Eland further explains, “Despite the risk of blowback attacks on Americans at home and abroad, the interests of the government, the foreign policy elite, and other pressure groups are furthered by an interventionist foreign policy to maintain the American empire.”

American interventionism is also the direct result of our federal legislature’s abnegation of constitutional responsibilities, namely its obligation to vote on the question of war. The author covers in detail this failure and the resulting rise of the “imperial” presidency in some detail, beginning with President Truman’s Korean “police action.”

Eland writes, “Conservatives should be against an American empire, because war is the primary cause of big government, including government encroachment in non-security related areas.” He provides a statistic that is singularly telling, “The United States is already overextended, accounting for almost 40 percent of the world’s military spending but possessing only little more than 30 percent of global GDP.” In effect, the American government has made the American taxpayer responsible for the military protection of Europe, Japan, and much of the globe.

Dr. Eland argues that the American interventionist foreign policy requires an imperial presidency that has resulted in a distortion of republican principles and weakened individual liberties. The same policy also underscores the inherent weaknesses in the “two-party” system: a political arrangement that has devolved into “one party,” at least in matters of foreign policy. America desperately needs a viable third, fourth, or even fifth party that will challenge the political power now held by the ‘Remocrats’ and ‘Depublicans.’ But the truth is our people have become politically ignorant and lazy, and it isn’t likely that the citizenry will return, any time soon, to republican principles.

Dr. Ivan Eland’s book, The Empire Has No Clothes, is an evocative and forceful argument for America to engage in a more restrained and farsighted foreign policy. Dr. Eland writes from a lifetime of foreign policy experience. He has worked as Investigator for the House Foreign Affairs Committee, the Principal Defense Analyst at the Congressional Budge Office, and was the Director of Defense Policy Studies at the Cato Institute. He is now the Senior Fellow and Director, Center on Peace and Liberty, The Independent Institute.

Dr. Eland’s book offers his readers a dichotomy; we can either continue with an interventionist policy that has resulted in massive American casualties, the threat of “blowback” attacks punitive taxes, a decline of individual liberties, and the loss of the moral imperative or we can adhere to the doctrine of the founders and avoid foreign alliances and entanglements.

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Robert C. Cheeks has published in numerous conservative journals, including Human Events, The American Enterprise and America's Civil War. He is a self described paleocon, and hopes the readers of Intervention are as open to his ideas as he is of the ideas presented in Intervention. You may send Bob your comments to robertcheeks@core.com

Posted Sunday, February 13, 2005 http://www.interventionmag.com/cms/modules...rticle&sid=1016

It's funny that you mentioned Rome. I had read somewhere* a couple years ago about the founding fathers, and when the concept of Uniting the States under a republic that one of the main models for influencing the constitution etc... was those of Rome. They were to take what was successful and had worked under the Roman Democracy and apply it to their fledgling country. However Ironically some of the factors of the fall of Rome: Corruption in the gov't, spreading military to the four corners of the empire, training those they conquest to fight like them, general decay from within its own society in regards to separation of rich and poor, etc. etc.



*I wish I rembered where I saw it, then I could show you

"Lousy Country?" How many other countries have you lived in? The US is a great place, it is just being mismanaged.

Right on, that cartoon was pretty damn good. I wonder if he's going to do a part IV?

Hi Joe

For some reason Your response to my post has inspired me to write this as an Op-Ed for publication. I previously had authored an op-ed that got published twice in the POAC forum entitled: "The folly, truth and Tragedy of Bush's Long War" as well as in a couple of print publications.

I appreciate the inspiration!
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A letter to Joe and the coming fall of the empire by Kim Smith scooter_scooter_scoooter@yahoo.com
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I had also read something, somewhere, that the western world as we know it: is nothing but bits and pieces of what is left of the former Roman Empire...."old habits die hard" when one considers there is more than a thousand years of western history involved and bred into the various cultures the Roman Empire spun off in it's death throes and their habit of over-extending its military might which left other cultures changed forever. (sound familiar?)

THIS empire is in its' final days. (Thank God for that and Preperation-H)

Just as in Rome; the pilferage of the ENTIRE national treasure, in every sense of the word; if one were to put a dollar value on honesty, integrity and compassion, is almost now complete. Truly an indicator of "The Beginning Of The End" from every historical perspective and human experience since the dawn of "civilization".

We hear hate speech and fearmongering from the vast majority of the various "Christian" and "Judeo" pulpits from Bangor, ME to LA, CA.

We are purposely distracted by "Partyline" controlled Christian/Judeo "Reality TV" where anything goes and is encouraged in real life by implication and innuendo. Then we have the "Bushite" scripted and purchased "News Reports" that too many "Sheeple" and inbred "believers", believe on "Fox" and the other controlled "Media" just because they "Saw it on the 'news' ".

With truth and all the word implies being on the "outs" with this administration: Fear has become our nations motivating factor, "Hollywierd" is just another fascist/Judeo tool of this administration with the intentionally fear inducing movies like "Smallpox" and the other "Terorist" fantasies they "entertain" and propogandise us with.

The "Terror threat level" is an interesting "tool". I bet that Hitler, Stalin and Goering are green about now ( not by decomposition)......but still cheering and giggling in their graves. Me thinks the "Terror Threat level" for the rest of the world is astronomical because the Bush War Machine is on the loose; devoid of conscience, reason, humanity or any sense of SANITY.

The "Privitization" of "Social Security" is but another sham or scam (however you look at it). The coming 20% rise of gas prices in incremental steps is another indicator that our nation and the dollar are now about as worthless to the rest of the world as the Iraqi dinar, as they are becoming to those of us who ARE PAYING ATTENTION.

Asia is dumping dollars like the Iraqis shredded the dinar in the streets of Baghdad. We are now ruled by "Jack-Booted", "Goose-stepping" thugs under pretense of the "Patriot anti-freedom act". The "Tiennemen Square Solution" is a certain reality for civil unrest here. Our streets will see the "color of law" become as red as the beaches of Normandy did on June 6, 1944 when "WE the People" take our country back, once we see there is truly nothing left to lose but the taxed and polluted air we breath..

As Stalins drinking buddy and commie cohort ; FDR put it: "We have nothing to fear but fear its self"......About the only truth he ever told the nation.

The "Salvador option" and ongoing torture of innocents is as "beyond debate" as this ongoing criminal undertaking is, AKA: "The War On Terror" and "The War FOR Drugs". While torture methods are refined and practiced on a grander scale more than ever, because it's now "Accaptable" and much better hidden from scrutiny because the "free press" was just a 200 YEAR OLD "flash in the pan", which has been taken off the "Endangered species list" because it is now EXTINCT for obvious reasons and intent.

"Freedom of the press" is now fantasy with the McCarthyite tactics of the "mighty war machine" and "Political Corectness" to "protect Amerikan interests and security" at home and abroad, all; in order to hide the unprecedented U.S. crimes against humanity in the name of "Democracy" which include targeting journalists in the war zones, and in certain circumstanes right here on U.S. soil by the U.S. military under orders issued by the KIC.

Knowing that: "The Pen Is Mightier Than The Sword" really shows that: the camera: when; in honest hands, becomes a real "WMD" this administration fears the most.

Freedom of speech is almost a goner. The KIC and his coining of the term "Political hate Spech" is one of the first steps in silencing the voice of conscience, reason and open debate.

Supreme Court Justice, Antonin Scalia made a remark at the last Harvard graduation commencement that: "Sexual orgies are good for the mind and soul".

The Romans poisioned themselves with drugs and alchol. Sexual orgies were their favorite diversion along with feeding Christians and people of conscience to the lions while Rome disentegrated. They sweetened their wine with this mystical heavy metal we know as lead, and Nero Fidddled while Rome burned.

We have deposited enough "DU" dust to equal the fallout of 500,000 Nagasaki size bombs in Iraq alone, which is also killing and genetically harming Amerikan troops and their future offspring as well. The next "Mushroom cloud" Condosleeza Rice spoke of in her "Fear Factor" speech of lies and innuendo; to convince us that the total genocide of the Islamic world is the only solution for the "Iraq Problem" and the Arabian penninsula in general; will be from a nuke with "made in the USA" stamped on the fins. I have to admit: that; in our "humanitarian" role in the ME: The oil fields have been spared from nuclear contamination.

It's all kind of errie and unsettling. To put the situation into historical context in "Computerese" and use the "Wild Card" symbol of the asterisk (*) and state the situation thusly by "solving the *.problem". Visions of "Krystalnacht", "Warsaw ghetto", "Ramadi", "Auschwitz", Bergen Belsen", "Falluja", "Hue', "Mi Lai", "Waco", "Wounded Knee", "Shermans march To The Sea", "Najaf", "Ruby Ridge", "The Murrah Building" and on and on ad nauseum.......where is the end?

Thru all of this: "Osama Bin-Forgotten" is still needed by this administration for fear and propaganda. He never was the 911 "mastermind". Nor will a real search ever be mounted. He's of more use alive and free than dead or captured. All he is "guilty" of is celebrating the beginning of the end of this evil empire. The real masterminds can be found in Langley, VA, and Tel-Aviv, Fascist Israel.

As the Romans discovered in Germania: "going for broke"; WILL get you there. Eventually the Romans were driven out of Germania in humiliation, only to return to an empire in ruins. THAT IS WHERE WE ARE NOW (IMHO)

Neither Napoleon or Hitler learned anything from the Roman experiences when they marched straight to Moscow MUCH TOO EASILY.......Kinda like "The March To Baghdad" and "The Mother Of All Battles". They didn't return home WITH much or TO much under either circumstance. So.......here we go: attempting to stare down an "enemy" of 2 billion plus who have more history and tennacity than the Russians could ever hope for.

We have returning troops, the majority of which, will end up in the prison system by behaving worse than the likes of Jeffrey Dahmer and his ilk, Because: there is, by design, no safety net here, and they will no longer have the comfort of hugging that AR15 at bed-time any longer.

In that light: I firmly believe that all returning vets be banned from firearms purchases untill they are proven mentally stable by psychiatric professionals in the private sector.

We have a military establishment rooted in demogoguery, racisim, sexisim, rape, theft, drugs, wanton murder of women, children, cultures, and journalists, various criminal enterprises, and constitutional sedition under a KIC who is a known war-time deserter, with an untamed coke habit and the resulting brain damage along with every sociopathic disorder catalogued by the Amerikan Psychiatric Association.

I found some prose written by a couple of those "Rag-Heads" that fits my mood, and which should be the mood of those with any shred of conscience in this once great nation. May it be infective ! ! !

What's below are not my words. However: they echo my thoughts.
The final verse is in MY own words. I ain't much of a "poet" and I "know it".......so: be kind.

Fighter jets made with oil dollars
Drop U.S. bombs
On Iraqi children.
Arab leaders build pillars
In school yards
Filled with gunpowder.
Moslem children die under rubles.
Arab leaders receive queues
From their masters.
Bleat is the only sound they make.

They live on a thin line of fear.
Energy evaporates under heat.
Each day they live drops one number:
“Count Down,” the famous phrase
Glazed with superficial truth
Sets the stage for assassination or war.
Each Arab leader
Wears a timed bomb made in U.S.A.
Such a bomb ticks in rhythm
With the targeted heart.
Arab leaders, cockroaches,
Call’em what you like.
They wrote their prescription.
Slow or sudden death,
The choice is not theirs.

Iraq is a pile of ashes.
Arab freaks cover their nostrils.
Death odor reminds them of treason.
The rest of the world complains
About escalating oil prices.
Murdered Iraqis and Palestinians
Don’t factor into living cost.
A Moslem’s life is cheaper than a dime,
Did Zionists and Neocons think
Their slaughter house would be this large?
They knew killing Arabs and Muslims
Is an economic gain - -
They never thought
A majority of Arabs and Muslims
Is a basket of polluted genes.

Americans inflate dreams with dreams.
They swallow poisoned metaphors
Orated by "elected" leaders.
Poisoned metaphors
Work on Americans like LSD in the sixties.
To make matters worse,
The print media turns these metaphors
Into “Head Line News.”
Fox and CNN Boys turn on their brain wash tab
And shower viewers with staled fictions.
Desperate hypocrites
Believe guilt heals with guilt.

Americans gotten used to lies,
Truth is just a blank line.
More disturbing than this,
America sits on a thin edge,
Ready for the big fall.
Yes Zionists and rich Arabs
Built America with fragile walls
And gave it a brain
Smaller than an ant’s brain.

The last time I checked history,
I found encyclopedias of war crimes
Authored by America and Israel.
Four decades of murder frenzy
Left Moslems and Arabs tormented:
7 million Palestinians, displaced or killed;
Egypt and Syria
Buried 1 million civilians and soldiers;
1 million Lebanese live with death scars;
1.5 million Iraqis killed;
1 million Iranians killed;
1 million Afghanis died from bullets or hunger.

Americans can’t see or hear
The real world;
They are drugged, doped
Or just plain dumb.
George W. Bush tells them lies;
He covers up his lies with lies;
They believe him.

The U.S. is determined to fight until the last Yankee.
If the world can’t become America,
American is going to drop nukes
And smoke humanity out.

George W. Bush has infested America
With a thirst for human blood.
Zionists stab America
And point the finger at Arabs and Muslims.
They hide the truth
Inside bundles of dollars
Supplied by Rich Arabs,
The ones who fuel fire
And pour it on Islam - -
The ones who sold Arabia
For the price of a desert mule.
Donkeys in long ropes
Belong in a U.S. zoo.

Iraq!
I could write you a poem
With my aching tears.
Aching tears don’t repair scars.
I must place my blood on my palm
Regardless of my old age.

Young Iraqi boys fight like lions,
Iraq’s neighbors watch soccer.
Iraq’s puppets
Fire American weapons;
They kill Iraqis
In vengeance for dead U.S. soldiers.

Iraq! I’ve built cuts and bruises
Around my heart to feel your pain
Until you’re free.
I wish I could be there with you.
My back can still take a bomb or two.
I’d rather bleed to death
And not see you bleed.

My last hope is I die for you…
Burry me in Baghdad,
In Fallujah,
In Najaf,
In Sammarra,
In Ramadi;
Burry me
Inside every grain of your soil.

Iraq, you fell to your feet before.
Each time you pursed out from your wounds
Before your enemies dug their heels.
They all fled like wild creeps.

George deceived you:
He entered your home
From the back door.
He paraded your prisoners
Like sick dogs;
He raped your daughters and mothers;
He disintegrated your pride;
He dismantled your joints;
He severed your heart from your soul;
He bombed your mosques and libraries;
He robbed your galleries and museums;
He stained your earth;
He polluted your air;
He poisoned your water;
He spoiled your food;

Every drop of blood George spilled
Will clot his brain
And sicken his heart.
His nights shall become dreams
Of Hell Fire.
His subhuman followers
Shall be reduced to talking pigs.

George commits war crimes,
Victims return on flights of hurricanes and storms;
In seconds they sweep
What B52 carpet-bomb in days.

Hurricanes, Charlie and Frances invaded Florida.
Iraq is holding on its last breath.
Najaf, Fallujah, Sammara and Baghdad
Cannot dig enough graves
Under hails of U.S. bombs.
Is God giving us a sign?
Could this be just a mild warning
For the worse is yet to come?
Hurricanes, Charlie and Frances
Ruined millions of homes;
Nearly 6-million homeless
Join their Iraqi peers.
George W. Bush claimed God is on his side.
Believe George or God,
The choice is yours.

Islam weeps when humanity bleeds.
Hurricanes and U.S. Zionists
Are enemies at war:
Hurricane warriors defend humanity;
Zionist killers kill Arabs and Muslims.

America and Israel reduced Palestine
To concentration camps.
Hitler giggles in his grave,
His grandchildren carry his name.
Today they murder Afghanis and Iraqis;
Tomorrow they will bomb Iran and Syria.
Israelis, Palestinians, Afghanis and Iraqis
Prepare more cemeteries;
United States ships coffins free of charge.
http://www.jihadunspun.com/intheatre_inter...list=/home.php&


Let's pray this evil empire collapses
with those who support it
Where there is no conscience,
Integrity and strenght flee
The lives of aggressor troops are
of less value than any Arab child
I cry for the troops not
My conscience supports them not
I applaud resistance success
I eagerly anticipate the growing wrath
of the God Amerika defiles
I pray our downfall is swift and just
May the lost souls of our leaders
be eternally tormented and comitted to
forever wander the endless maze of hell
May their fire be unquenchable
with THEIR children by their side.

Scooter_scooter_scoooter@yahoo.com

scooter, it's also a place where ignorance seems to be preferred over knowledge, fantasy entertainment over realities of an illegal war, religious domination over religious freedom, and a moron is applauded by 51% of the population while he resides in the White House.

Who'd a thunk it as we contemplated the mysteries of the 21st century when we were all so naive and innocent back in 1999?

Catherine

Hi Catherine

I dont think that 51% of the people support King George and his terrorist regeime.

A lot of people are changing their minds about this madness and the resulting loss of life and liberty in the name of "Democracy".......perhaps the spelling should be changed to "DEMONOCRACY"......much more fitting in our current situation.

I just got off the phone with Jack Dalton. He liked my earlier post with the title:
"A letter to Joe and the coming fall of the empire by Kim Smith". he's forwarded that piece to the editor to be published here on POAC as an Op-ed.

I had previously had the op-ed titled "The folly Truth and Tragedy Of George Bushs' Long War" published here as well.

We all remember that King George was not "elected" in 2000. He was "Appointed by a wing-nut led "Supreme Court" Decision by a panel of 9 very sick and demented racist hatemongers who have no interest in the constitution or the bill of rights.

I'll never believe that he was "elected" in 2004 because too many voting irregularities in several key states were swept under the rug.

With the current mood and arrogant stand of this brain-dead coke fiend and the corporate need and desire for a fascist dictatorship: the possibility of ANY "election" in 2008 is in doubt.

We all must act in unison and in individual situations to put as much fear into the hearts of military age kids and parents as we can to further help erode the effectiveness of this illegal war of aggression thru attrition and outright desertion from military service.

Our numbers are growing. I was one of the first to question and demonize "The War On Terror" long before the first shots were fired. As a Viet-Nam vet: I am well aware of the evil intentions and possible outcomes that will certainly come out of this massive failure in Amerikan Foreign Policy that's run and fueld by fear, haterd, racisim, and corporate greed.

Gotta go......dinner is served