link

It never ends. Sold out for the billionth time by a Democrat. What a big fucking surprise.

As it says in the article: "With Democrats like this, who needs Republicans?"

broken link?

Um, your link is not working.

The link does not work because this software is truncating the link. Here is link the old fashioned way:

"http://www.correntewire.com/feinstein_blowjob_worse_than_violating_rights_of_millions_1999_censure_for_
linton_2007_retroactive_immunity_for_telcos"

But you really didn't need to see the link to believe that another Democratic sold us out, did you? If there is a "-D" in front of the name, you know you are probably not dealing with a progressive. You are dealing instead with a two-faced politician that will say one thing and do another.

Don't overgeneralize.

I knew it was Feinstein before clicking the link. She sucks. She's always sucked.

Jello Biafra said it best

Diane banker butt licker Margret Thatcher Fienstien! The dragon lady with no fucking heart.


Edit to add:

and BTW...

Feinstein Faces Dem Censure

So, one Democrat, one with a history of leaning right buggers up the progressive system,
and you blame the whole party.

But wait, let's assume as many as half of the Dems are sell outs, I'd like to hear your viable alternative.





Why is it you continue to hammer on the Democrats, and fail miserably at discussion concerning those who created and continue to make the situation what it is?



<---- just doesn't seem to say enough!



(Note: Be it understood that having said this, there will be those who will choose to assume that this then means I'm supporting all Democrats all the time, and that in their minds I'm nothing but an apologist. Let this then be understood to be wrong.)

I think he was pointing out the Duplicity of many in the Democratic leadership who say one thing and do another.

Don't worry, this happens with many Repubs too. You generally see this affect when they accept money from Lobbyists.

Sky knows very well what I was pointing out, but since he is a Democrat himself he runs defense for them all the time and attacks back at anyone who condemns them for who they are. And then when you paint him into a corner he always comes back with the "no viable alternative" rationalization. I've been there a million times with him and have no doubt that this merry-go-round never stops. Somewhere along the line a sane person will want to jump off.

It's sad that Sky is so unreasonable. The nerve, asking for an alternative...

I'll answer this, but you would already know if you weren't so in bed with the Democratic Party. We know all about the Republicans. We know all about the Bush Administration. We know who they are. We know what they will do. We know they are bad. They get condemned all the time here. So why should I beat that horse some more?

My real wrath is aimed at the party who is NOT supposed to be part of the problem but IS VERY MUCH part of the problem. As long as I see the Democrats as being part of the problem I will hammer the fuck out of them, as much as that pisses you off. You don't see clearly because you are a Democrat yourself. If you were to become truely independent of them and lose your pro-Democrat bias, then you would begin to realize what so many others already know.

I can accept the word "Many" as a good qualifier that is not a blanket statement.
In fact, "Many" is IMO closer to the truth because "Many" could mean 3 or 30.

Every politician takes money from lobbyists. Until the system is changed, they all will continue.
They have to as long as elections are privately financed.

The dems that capitulate are pretty small in number, so to blame the democratic party is pretty weak. However, since Pelosi and Reid are such poor leaders, it's not all that weak. They are the leadership, after all.

So far, every time the dems have rolled over, it's been part of a deal. Unfortunately, we the people come out on the shitty end of that deal.. the democratic party gets a little and Bush gets the best deal. It's maddening and I'm looking forward to tearing into the dems after the next election.

I'm as fed up as you are AFW. And I'm really disappointed that we've been let down by such cowardly dem leadership.

You know....Im not sure how long I have been on this board but there is a rational growth occuring here. Some who swore the Dems were the great hope now realize....the Dems is just people and a let down of some magnitude. Most were then and still are convinced the Repub's are fundamental idiots. All of this magnified in society....how does a 3rd party fail to gain traction?

(Maybe its not magnified and we are a cell group of geniuses???)

Well, you aren't going to vote for me, I'm not going to vote for you, and Maxanne won't compromise and vote for either of us.

Let me state it again, only using TJ's words.
I'm upset with the situation as well. That however, is not my issue here on this thread, at this moment.
At least TJ demonstrates a little knowledge of the larger picture, and understands it's not as simple as "the dems caved" or that "the democrats and the republicans are all the same". Yes, there is much truth in those statements, but that's not all there is to it. And even so, what do we do about it?

I think, depending on circumstances, that after the 08 election cycle a third party could be a real and credible possibility.
I'd consider it quite likely for exactly the reasons you mentioned Abell.

There are a few who do not. I do not need to mention their names.

The 2 major parties have rigged the election system against 3rd parties gaining traction.

We have to examine the facts and find someone in the 2 parties, this usually means someone who is not bought and sold. And it's rare.

Well, now that you mention it, rarity is before us. As I have said, Paul and Kucinich (in my limited opinion) do represent the "rare". While I do disagree on MANY point with Kucinich, I do admire him as I believe him to be honest, candid, and in great contrast to the rest of the Democratic herd. You will note, Im not a HUGE supporter of the Dems. Paul is identical in many respects though I think his chances of winning are close to zero. And, Mr. Paul does have some issues. IF I had to choose a Dem...it would be Kucinich and I would have to live with accepting the integrity of the man over the things I think he would take from me. (Yea, Im a greedy redneck with guns.) But Paul...I can't quite swallow him yet...more later.

His chances of winning are small, but growing everyhour. He is almost into double digit percentages in the states he advertises in. Not to mention the money machine.

Those colors wouldn't happen to be different shades of yellow would they?

Yep, he's almost just about maybe up on the fringes of the radar.
Now is the time to be hopeful. Dissapointment and dissatisfaction are not far down the road.