It is apparent that someone is setting the US up for something. Check it out: A bomber was carrying nuclear weapons over the US transporting them to the staging military base for the middle east. Bush past Homeland security legislation to begin in October to spy on the American people. The recent Zogby poll states that 51% of those polled say that the Bush administration is hiding something about 911. I'm not saying that I know what is going on cause I don't but if I were in someone's position I would do something before the other 29% of Americans wake up!!!
The penalty for treason is........

I think what goes without saying here is that this is just an incompetent administration going daily about its senseless activities. I've just finished reading Jeff Shaara's Gods and Generals, which is relevant only in that it details the hapless decisions made by a whole raft of Union generals during the Civil War, as they tried to get some traction against the Confederacy. They failed time and time again, despite their vastly superior numbers, and didn't begin winning the war in a convincing way until General Grant took charge.

I'm not trying to change the subject, but merely to point out that government policy and strategy is usually a matter of muddling through. Even more than in the Bush 1 administration, vision is in critically short supply among the minions of Bush 43. I don't particularly worry about the stray nukes, simply because I hold the entire administration in such utter contempt that I believe that if anything worth noting happens these days, it will be an accident. Sorry, I just don't see this outfit having the brainpower to carry off some kind of coup or master stroke.

Like the Reagan years, I am grateful when Our Dear Leader sleeps.

Remember, ONLY YOU know the truth, thanks to your keen perceptions and laser-like logic. Everybody else are sheep, blinded by the propaganda of The System. From you secret command bunker in your mom's basement, you See All, Know All.

Well I'll say this much. The Bushes know exactly what their doing. This is the first thing we all need to understand. The reason were shown Bush as an incompetent fool isn't because he is but because by seeming incompetent we are unable to see what is truly going on. The Bush family is EVIL. And that is the bottom line. You think for a second that Bush didn't know people were dying in New Orleans? He ordered people to shoot them. You think he doesn't know what is going on in Iraq? Who do you think created the insurgents. As far as that goes who do you think created Bin Ladin? To say he is a fool is denying the fact that an agenda is being played out right before our eyes. And if we make it to the next election, were gonna go through it again with Hillary Rock err I mean Clinton. America has been hijacked a long time ago. All we see now is the end game.

Human beings have a propensity for connecting dots.
It's an evolutionary survival skill.

However, just because you think they're after you, doesn't guarantee that they are, or are not.




You ever stare at a TV that was between stations and there's only static?
Eventually you start to think there's something there.

I really don't think bush is all that smart, But i do think that the AEI, the CFR, The Bilderburg group, The Carlisle group, and various other entities don't have our best intentions at heart. I don't think that these people would give a shit if San Francisco was hit with a nuke if it gave them money or power, and I wouldn't put it past any of them to plan such things. It wouldn't be the first time. Reicshstag? (sp?)

Yes, but just because there was a Reicshtag, doesn't mean it's happening again.
Doesn't mean it's not either.

Stare at the TV a while longer.

Here's what the "stupid" Bush was doing prior to 9/11

http://oldamericancentury.org/bb/index.php?showtopic=16074

I'm not looking at static, nor reading between the lines. I'm reading the lines, and looking at history.
although I'd probably get more out of static than watching an actual channel.

Your drawing conclusions based upon what you think you see.
I'm not saying your mistaken, and I'm not saying you aren't.
I'm only stating that one, singler truth.

Why?

what else can I draw from?
What else can you draw from?
I'm one of those strange people that actually watches fox news from time to time. I read Bill Kristols articles. I TRY to look at all the angles, all the arguments, and see what's substantiated, and what's propaganda. I go with my conscience, and my research. I invite argument. I want to know all points of view, so that I find one that's boiling over, about to burn down the house, I can put out the fire.

I can be persuaded, if the argument is truthful.

i want to know the truth. What do you want?

You can draw from anything you want, and I hope and expect that you will.
However, I'm ONLY making that one, singular statement.


Truth, is all too often a matter of personal perspective.
Right wing Christian fundies absolutely believe that what they tell you, and them selves, is the absolute truth.
However, I tend to quite often disagree with them anyway.

My question stands...

WHY?

Because IMO, it seemed to needed saying.

"it seemed to needed saying"...

please give me the inforanimation that your opinin was fownded on...

I'll speak in modern english to all who will listen...

Nick Flac blarney caundo floo?

That's not required.
Note that it's an opinion.
You may choose to consider it, or not.
That's your decision to make.
My decision was to present the information.

Besides OPI (Other people's information) exactly what information have YOU really brought to this forum? Your always speaking about where's your information or where's your facts when YOU have offered NOTHING...

I know I know YOUR OUTTA LINE LOL

So much nothing that you felt you outta point that out?
heh and again, way over the top.

You know what sky? it's all good. I posted that for 2 reasons: You pissed me off and I seen you were reading this as I was on here...
I was wrong, You do offer an opinion. I get frustrated when I see what is going on with our country and no one is doing anything to stop it and then I translate "No conspiracy theory" as George Bush said right after 911 "And lets not tolerate any outrageous conspiracy theories" To me this translates as "Don't question us because we are in charge and we can do whatever we want".

Yeah, but we've already seen your "translations." Any luck demonstrating where I've said the things you claim I've said yet?

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You and others sometimes fail to understand that I am not required to explain anything.
That if I do, then I do so because I made the decision to do so.
And that if I don't, it could be that I just didn't want too, and it could be that I have a reason for not explaining.
But even that, I am not required to explain! That fact that you don't get it is just not my responsibility.
Rant and scream and throw a tantrum, it won't change a thing I do, unless I make the decision to do so!
You have options. Question is, do you know what they are?
Yes, banging on my emotional stability, that's one. But will that get you the control you want, or will you accept some degree of temporary satisfaction instead?

Explain to me exactly what it is your trying to convey!!!
So are you saying that you fail to understand and thats why you don't explain anything

Not gonna do it.

At this time I'm quite pleased to let you guess wildly.

It's amusing.

Explain!!!

Explain what?
Be specific.

Not gonna do it. wry2.gif

At this time I'm quite pleased to let you guess wildly. tinfoilhat.gif

It's amusing. tongue.gif

LOL

Seemed just as easy to quote myself.

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happy couldn't have said it better and whoever is shadowing my posts please stop I can screw em up without the help
JM

What does "shadowing your posts" mean?

Is someone making an accusation?

shadowing someone's post= taking someone's nic by hacking a system and writing posts under that nic. JM are the initials of a person who has done this before to me to discredit what I post. That's a long story but it boils down to: Someone knows the amount of information that I have accumulated about certain things and is trying to ghost my posts to discredit the messenger. This has been going on for a while that's how I ended up on this forum. Anywho it's all good. And sky no I'm not accusing you of anything you don't have the capability to do what this person can do. It's all good!!!

This was the post that I did not make!!!

OK, that's substantive, and I believe TJ can check the IP for both your name and the supposed imposter.
What I'm most curious about right now, is why would someone wanna go to all that trouble, just to make you look bad?

So, that wasn't you?

A few things it could be:

1. Somebody else got to your computer, or a shared computer you have used
2. You have used the same username/password combo on other sites, and one of the admins caught up with you
3. Intercepted by a communications company employee (very unlikely)

got room mates?
Or are you as full of BS as you seem to be?

i don't want to think that you're a bullshit promulgator, considering that some things you've said have merit. Please inform us as to how this is possible, or go away.

you've shown your ignorance, but plenty of others (who have posted voluminously,) have done the same, and you're entitled to your own opinion.

please don't give us a line of childish BS as to why things didn't get posted the way they should have.

Hell, i've made some dumb coments while I was drunk, or tired, but i didn't blame it on some crazy theory of a ghost in my machine!

my keyboard gets coonfuseed on my vowels sometimes, but it doesn't send it into the ether until i tell it to.

It's also possible to have a medical condition that may cause confusions like this. Nothing to be ashamed of, but if it happens more than once, you may want to talk to a doctor.

Sorry JMBrewr, but that's the bottom line really.
You need to regain some respect here, and quick.

Watching and Waiting......

I know I didn't post that. I'm not even going to bother with it it's stupid. If it ruins my credibility so be it, I don't give a damn either way. But I know that I DID NOT POST IT!!! End of discussion.

End? Hell, it's just getting interesting!

I agree.

JM, you can't say for certain that you didn't make the post. It's possible you're completely crazy, or just forgetful, or possibly the victim of a vast atheist conspiracy. To explore this, I'd like to know whether you made (that you recall) the 2 posts immediately before and after it in your list-of-posts.


From 2 minutes before:


From 13 minutes after:

FYI, I am at this point deliberately staying out of this, accept to make that be known.

I will say this though, that I mostly agree with Seuss in that I'd prefer to not think the worst.
However, until someone presents a REASONABLE explanation, the worst is about all there is.

It woiuld seem that either the purveyor of Conspiracy Theories is himself a victim of some mysterious conspiracy,
or ????

That was the point I was trying to make on the graphic I put together. Yikes, how did I screw up the times so bad? Looks like I need to quit sniffing glue.

So....this is what George Bush does for fun?