The title of the speech is An Absolute Victory and, in it, Sen. Inhofe justifies America's support for the State of Isreal.

I personally think such support is Treason against the United States.

On the other hand, I agree with Sen. Inhofe, that we are at spiritual war.

This is not new language on the American landscape. Upon receiving the surrender of the Japanese at the close of World War II, Gen. Douglas MacArthur had similar thoughts:

I don't know how else to fight religious fundamentalism [or fundamentalism, in general] but within the context of the religion a fundamentalist claims to represent.

So, these days, doing that has become my main interest:

Calico Web

I am inspired by the courage of those behind the POAC site and I look forward to getting acquainted and making new friends.

Many blessings,

elspet

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From the Offical Ken Wilber site, a list of Ken Wilber books
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several Wilber Links
Who is Ken Wilber


Ken Wilber / Journal / July 1999
Liberalism and Religion - We Should Talk

Liberalism's objections to mythic forms do not apply to formless awareness. Thus liberalism and authentic spirituality can walk hand in hand.There are two major dialogues in the modern world that I believe must take place, one between science and religion, and then one between religion and liberalism.
The way it is now, the modern world really is divided into two major and warring camps, science and liberalism on the one hand, and religion and conservatism on the other. And the key to getting these two camps together is first, to get religion past science, and then second, to get religion past liberalism, because both science and liberalism are deeply anti-spiritual. And it must occur in that order, because liberalism won’t even listen to spirituality unless it has first passed the scientific test. (Showing how that might happen was a major theme of my book, Sense and Soul.)
In one sense, of course, science and liberalism are right to be anti-spiritual, because most of what has historically served as spirituality is now prerational, magic or mythic, implicitly ethnocentric, fundamentalist dogma. Liberalism traditionally came into existence to fight the tyranny of prerational myth and that is one of its enduring and noble strengths (the freedom, liberty, and equality of individuals in the face of the often hostile or coercive collective). And this is why liberalism was always allied with science against fundamentalist, mythic, prerational religion (and the conservative politics that hung on to that religion).
But neither science nor liberalism is aware that in addition to prerational myth, there is transrational awareness. There are not two camps here: liberalism versus mythic religion. There are three: mythic religion, rational liberalism, and transrational spirituality.
The main strength of liberalism is its emphasis on individual human rights. The major weakness is its rabid fear of Spirit. Modern liberalism came into being, during the Enlightenment, largely as a counterforce to mythic religion, which was fine. But liberalism committed a classic pre/trans fallacy: it thought that all spirituality was nothing but prerational myth, and thus it tossed any and all transrational spirituality as well, which was absolutely catastrophic. (As Ronald Reagan would say, it tossed the baby with the dishes.) Liberalism attempted to kill God and replace transpersonal Spirit with egoic humanism, and as much as I am a liberal in many of my social values, that is its sorry downside, this horror of all things Divine. Liberalism can be rightfully distrustful of prerational myth, and yet still open itself to transrational awareness. Its objections to mythic forms do not apply to formless awareness, and thus liberalism and authentic spirituality can walk hand in hand into a greater tomorrow. If this can be demonstrated to them using terms they find acceptable, then we would have, I believe for the first time, the possibility of a postliberal spirituality, which combines the strengths of conservatism and liberalism but moves beyond both in a transrational, transpersonal integration. The trick is to take the best of both, individual rights plus a spiritual orientation, and to do so by finding liberal humanistic values plugged into a transrational, not prerational, Spirit. This spirituality is transliberal, evolutionary and progressive, not preliberal, reactionary and regressive. It is also political, in the very broadest sense, in that its single major motivation, compassion, is pressed into social action. However, a postconservative, postliberal spirituality is not pressed into service as public policy, transrational spirituality preserves the rational separation of church and state, as well as the liberal demand that the state will neither protect nor promote a favorite version of the good life. Those who would transform the world by having all of us embrace their new paradigm, or particular God or Goddess, or their version of Gaia, or their favorite mythology, these are all, by definition, reactionary and regressive in the worst of ways: preliberal, not transliberal, and thus their particular versions of the witch hunt are never far removed from their global agenda. A truly transliberal spirituality exists instead as a cultural encouragement, a background context that neither prevents nor coerces, but rather allows genuine spirituality to arise.
But one thing is absolutely certain: all the talk of a new spirituality in America is largely a waste of time unless those two central dialogues are engaged and answered. Unless spirituality can pass through the gate of science, then of liberalism, it will never be a significant force in the modern world, but will remain merely as the organizing power for the prerational levels of development around the world.

Material in this column appears in One Taste: The Journals of Ken Wilber, from Shambhala Publications Inc., Boston. © Ken Wilber, 1998.

Well I certainly know something about the Red Cross Knight. Redcrosse is the protagonist in the first book of the Faerie Queene by Edmund Spenser. I'm not sure how gold works in the story. It's been some time since I've read it.

An absolute victory?
We know this person isn't living in the reality based community at all.
Israel's interests and American interests are not the same.
Britain's interests and American interests are not the same either.
Such support has become treasonous because it has caused us to act in ways that are inconsistent with our founding documents and culture.
Conservatives say they want to avoid entangling alliances. They've said it for more than 200 years.
Liberals say the infrastructure of our country must be attended to. They've been saying that for more than 200 years too.
We are not a sacred society or a secret society. We are secular.
We don't brook secrets well here, and we should be particularly aggressive in our reactions to those kept by people who are "elected," elected, and appointed to their positions.

A spiritual war? Not in the sense that Imhofe would have us believe. Our spiritual war is not with the rest of the world but with ourselves. It's only a matter of time before the words become more than words. This country is divided and the divisions will become only more bitter over time. Spiritual war today, civil war tomorrow. Mark my words it will come to pass.

elspet!

Hahaha.....I assumed the Calico link was going to be about Ashcroft's fear of Calico cats.

Be sure and check out some of the information on Moon. http://oldamericancentury.org/bb/index.php?showtopic=803

(We were hacked and lost a lot of good information but I'll gradually repost all of it. When time permits. Moon is THE dangerous religious nutjob we need to watch the most.)



Interesting links you provided.
IMO Inhofe is an asshole.
But "treason" works for me too.


You might find this of interest,

http://www.awakenedwoman.com/duarte_demon.htm

This is a funny thing. The Gold has meaning relative to the Red Crosse Knight from the First Booke of the Faerie Qveene, i.e., relative in the sense of Holinesse; but, also, in a contemporary way, in that there is an existing secret society whose members believe, of course, that they are the true inheritors of Nature's secrets. I used to link to them but just discovered that they've password protected their homepage.

Should we be surprised?

They call their order The Red Cross Knights of Gold.

I once appealed to them for help. But, I was brushed off as a subordinate. Kindergarten Fools!

I guess they have yet to understand Luke, xi:

"33": No man, when he hath lighted a candle, putteth it in a secret place, neither under a bushel, but on a candlestick, that they which come in may see the light.

"34": The light of the body is the eye: therefore when thine eye is single, thy whole body also is full of light; but when thine eye is evil, thy body also is full of darkness.

"35": Take heed therefore that the light which is in thee be not darkness.

"36": If thy whole body therefore be full of light, having no part dark, the whole shall be full of light, as when the bright shining of a candle doth give thee light.

-Luke, xi.-
King James Version
The Holy Spirit of The Holy Bible

Nor, apparently, have they comprehended the Apostle Paul's Letter to the Thessalonians, where he writes:

"14": For ye, brethren, became followers of the churches of God which in Judaea are in Christ Jesus: for ye also have suffered like things of your own countrymen, even as they have of the Jews:
"15": Who both killed the Lord Jesus, and their own prophets, and have persecuted us; and they please not God, and are contrary to all men:
"16": Forbidding us to speak to the Gentiles that they might be saved, to fill up their sins alway: for the wrath is come upon them to the uttermost.

-St. Paul's Letter to the Thessalonians-
1 Thessalonians: ii.
The Holy Bible
King James Version

Simply put, Enlightenment is about visibly seeing the inner light of our mind's eye. I believe the Illuminated Manuscripts were indicative of this awareness. The knowledge is universal [meaning catholic] to all religions.

And, discovering that bright inner light we recall as gold is a part of the process.

This is why I respect George Soros' emphasis on Open Society. No one man or one group holds a monopoly on the gifts of Nature.

I agree. The spiritual war is against the daemons within ourselves, as individuals, i.e., the microcosm, and against our very own neighbors here in the U.S., i.e., the macrocosm. In this way, the war in Iraq [extending the macrocosm] can and should be seen as a failure on the part of the American people.

When I first got on the Internet in 1999, I began to realize what a powerful tool the computer is for expanding awareness. For a while, I really hoped and advocated for its use, in terms of promoting dialogue, to prevent future wars. Then there was 9/11 and all the mess that's followed. I despaired for many months and even succumbed to hatred of George Bush and everyone who follows him. I'd never hated a president before.

Still, I do hope we can rise above a civil war. But, I wouldn't be surprised if your prediction holds true.

Thanks for the thoughtful reply,

elspet

P.S. If you follow the links, I like using symbols in this way. To me, it adds a breath of idealistic realism to the fundamentalist, literal, authoritarian interpretation of the Christian Faith and religion in general. Carl Jung comes to mind, as well as, Ken Wilbur, the Elizabethans, and others.

I don't hate anybody alive today.
Though there are a very few people I do thoroughly despise.
Bush? I don't like him, I despise his policy. The Man is just a puppet. A completely aware puppet that is completely culpable and guilty of Impeachable crimes, but just a puppet.

That means
If and when Bushco gets pulled down,
PNAC won't be touched!
It will survive and lie waiting for another opportunity to seize power!

Ya...ah...haaa.... You noticed. When I first read that Ashcroft was superstitious of calico cats, I about fell off my chair. I figured I must be onto something, so I nailed the poor misled soul:

Sons of Light (Clue #1 - Click there; and, there again. Notice the 'Alt Tags'. Then follow the Hand.)

I read the whole thing and will return to follow the internal links. Meanwhile, the spell has been cast for the Reverand Moon to be transformed into a Toad.

I'm so sorry to hear this. In my own experience, this sort of disruption breaks the flow of continuity, or momentum, causing us to get disconnected somewhat from our memories. I suspect those at the center of the disruptive ripple have some concept of these effects.

Oh, I did! She's sensational! I've grown skeptical of the intentions and approaches of most psychologists/psychiatrists [people who call themselves healers, in general]. But, this lady has her stuff together. I'm going to link back to that article from a few places at my site.

Panda, thank you for the kind welcome. I've been having so much fun since I discovered this place. It feels so good to laugh again.

Peace and Love,

elspet

I'm with you on the concept of Eternal Life [110 = Eternity]. It does disturb me, however, that these lucifer katz may not have any concept of what that means and, consequently, they believe they can, through digital physics, grant themselves eternal life. It's devastating, really. Science without Faith is deadly. Faith without Science is stupid. For some reason, I can't get the anchor to this direct link to work. But, if you click here The End of History; then, pull down to that same title; and, follow the links, therein, you'll have an idea of what I mean.

I believe those at the center of the cell generating this wave of consciousness sincerely desire a tyranny. All the pieces of the puzzle I've been able to gather fit right into that sub-reality. They are deluding themselves because there is immeasureable power in the Truth; whereas, their power is limited to their delusional fantasies.

Me, too. I could say the same of myself. Like you, I remain penitent. We could say what we've experienced and are experiencing still is our own transformation. We're developing a conscience. The process is alchemical. Not everyone can do it. Bush may be one example of someone who cannot do it. On the other hand, he may very well be aware [along with those who surround him] of what he is doing and, if that's the case, the man represents pure, unadulterated, EVIL ...the frustrated magician to borrow a thought from Panda's link.

Imagine if Hitler had the military might available to George Bush. When it came down to his final hour, would he have committed suicide or would he have destroyed the world rather than face himself?

This is where we're at. I wish the Centers for Disease Control would have locked Georgie Porgie up when he started the war in Iraq. Anyone who's read Alice Miller's study of Hitler and the Nazi Regime will have a clue of what I mean.

If only it were behind us now....

I don't hate him anymore. Hating just hurt myself. (Sky's latest message expresses that understanding.) I knew it would but I let myself feel it... to the ends of the earth... Alpha and Omega. I have a better comprehension of the meaning of Apocaplypse now. Time to begin again... to RE-CREATE... as the Angels would say... the E always follows the R. *smiling*

Get onboard or miss the bus... and pay the price.

Yipee-kye-aye, Mother-_ _ _ _ E R 's!

curtsy,

elspet