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tamara
okay, i'm now having a real live tamara meltdown- the kind that my kids cover their eyes about-

several months ago, two of my cats were shot - just after my old bitchy neighbor complained about the cats "eating [her] birds." these are wild birds, mind you, that she walks out every morning and spreads seed for- just setting them up in a kitty buffet.

one cat killed, kiko, the sweetest most loving cat i've ever known- who always came running to calm my babies when they cried.
one cat maimed, lost a leg. skippy has been with me for 7 years.


now, she calls tuesday night to bitch about the birds again. so i put a collar on the remaining outside cat with a bell, to keep him from being as equipped to catch birds. i also ordered some fox scent crap off the internet that is supposed to make cats stay away, and was going to send my son over at night to put it on the old bitch's fence.

however, we didn't get the chance. now THAT cat has been killed.

i am at my wit's end- the cops won't do anything. i'm just about to walk over to her home to have a psycho-rage meltdown.

any suggestions for what i should say?

so far, i'm thinking something like this:

"your fucking wild birds are not as important as my children's happiness- you just killed my daughter's pet, her birthday pet- a stray that just happened to show up on her birthday at our house. i am going to bring her back over here, and i want you to explain to her why you've shot her pet.
now, i want you to hear this: every time a cat goes missing from my house, i am going to the animal shelter to get THREE cats. you are actually increasing your cat problem with each death.

you now have the neighbor from hell. i will rain down upon you more misery and torment that you've caused me, watch, wait, and enjoy the show."


i love birds. i have always loved birds. but one doesn't kill cats over birds.


-t-
tamara
sweet kiko, casualty #1:

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skippy, who now only has three functioning legs:

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the latest casualty- this photo taken on my daughter's birthday, when he arrived:

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Dr. Left
QUOTE (tamara @ Friday, 11 February 2005, 6:48 am)
okay, i'm now having a real live tamara meltdown- the kind that my kids cover their eyes about-

several months ago, two of my cats were shot - just after my old bitchy neighbor complained about the cats "eating [her] birds." these are wild birds, mind you, that she walks out every morning and spreads seed for- just setting them up in a kitty buffet.

one cat killed, kiko, the sweetest most loving cat i've ever known- who always came running to calm my babies when they cried.
one cat maimed, lost a leg. skippy has been with me for 7 years.


now, she calls tuesday night to bitch about the birds again. so i put a collar on the remaining outside cat with a bell, to keep him from being as equipped to catch birds. i also ordered some fox scent crap off the internet that is supposed to make cats stay away, and was going to send my son over at night to put it on the old bitch's fence.

however, we didn't get the chance. now THAT cat has been killed.

i am at my wit's end- the cops won't do anything. i'm just about to walk over to her home to have a psycho-rage meltdown.

any suggestions for what i should say?

so far, i'm thinking something like this:

"your fucking wild birds are not as important as my children's happiness- you just killed my daughter's pet, her birthday pet- a stray that just happened to show up on her birthday at our house. i am going to bring her back over here, and i want you to explain to her why you've shot her pet.
now, i want you to hear this: every time a cat goes missing from my house, i am going to the animal shelter to get THREE cats. you are actually increasing your cat problem with each death.

you now have the neighbor from hell. i will rain down upon you more misery and torment that you've caused me, watch, wait, and enjoy the show."


i love birds. i have always loved birds. but one doesn't kill cats over birds.


-t-

OMG, -t- why didn't you tell me, I though kiko was lost in a the storm. There is smomething you can do. First of all there is a law in most states that you are not allowed to shoot a weapon close to other homes, second, there are animal cruelity laws that this women can be arrested under. If she has a problem with your cats she can call Animal Control but she is not allowed to take the law into her own hands. Find out what the laws are and if I'm right press charges, next time a child could be trying to get that cat and should could accidently shoot that child.

Doc
tamara
well, we thought kiko was lost in the storm too... until skippy showed up limping... i thought he'd been HURT in the storm- took him to the vet, there was a bullet in his leg...

but i gave the old bitch the benefit of the doubt- until i was at a new years eve party and her son started complaining about his mom's new drunk boyfriend- who he said shot my cats.

so when she started calling about the birds tuesday, i really got worried and started trying to take action to keep this kitty safe-

but now he's missing, and i know the old bastard shot him. every time she calls about the birds, a cat goes missing.

i'm so furious i could die, my four year old keeps calling for him and looking for him - i've checked all the shelters, put out flyers, etc...

btw- i DID call the cops. they said that if i didn't see him shoot the cats, i couldn't prove he shot the cats, and they refuse to do anything. there's an animal cruelty law on the books now-

but just to show you how unenforced it is- a man in alabama threw a cat into the fire in front of his kids - but no charges were filed.

this is the most bass ackward spot on earth. god i want to get the fuck out of here.

-t-
Dr. Left
QUOTE (tamara @ Friday, 11 February 2005, 7:14 am)
well, we thought kiko was lost in the storm too... until skippy showed up limping... i thought he'd been HURT in the storm- took him to the vet, there was a bullet in his leg...

but i gave the old bitch the benefit of the doubt- until i was at a new years eve party and her son started complaining about his mom's new drunk boyfriend- who he said shot my cats.

so when she started calling about the birds tuesday, i really got worried and started trying to take action to keep this kitty safe-

but now he's missing, and i know the old bastard shot him. every time she calls about the birds, a cat goes missing.

i'm so furious i could die, my four year old keeps calling for him and looking for him - i've checked all the shelters, put out flyers, etc...

btw- i DID call the cops. they said that if i didn't see him shoot the cats, i couldn't prove he shot the cats, and they refuse to do anything. there's an animal cruelty law on the books now-

but just to show you how unenforced it is- a man in alabama threw a cat into the fire in front of his kids - but no charges were filed.

this is the most bass ackward spot on earth. god i want to get the fuck out of here.

-t-

Holy crap, it used to be that way here, but now that we have gotten the "good ole boys" out of the city government and we have real professionals running our shelter, we have been conviction after conviction here.

Damn -t-, I wish there was something I could do.

Doc
tamara
i know the first question you guys wonder is "why keep getting cats if she shoots them?"

the thing is, i moved into this home with the first two cats.

the last one was a stray that showed up on my daughter's birthday, and at that point i really just couldn't imagine that the neighbors had shot the other two- until new years.

i spent $800 on skippy's leg, they wanted to remove it- but at least he still has it- though it is useless.

all three of the cats were neutered- with collars, and she knows they are my kids pets. i hate her.

-t-
POAC
Holy shit.
What's the neighbohood ordinance on siting in the yard with a bb gun and plugging some sparrows all day every day for a week?

Just kidding. That would just escalate the issue. i wish i had some advice.
tamara
QUOTE (POAC @ Friday, 11 February 2005, 9:32 am)
Holy shit.
What's the neighbohood ordinance on siting in the yard with a bb gun and plugging some sparrows all day every day for a week?

Just kidding. That would just escalate the issue. i wish i had some advice.

POAC, i'm really having a hard time dissuading my teenage son from doing something like that-

he wants to mark the birds with a paintball gun to send her a message-

here's what he posted on his website about it (sounds a bit violent, but he's upset- he's not a violent kid):

QUOTE
The neighbors killed one of our cats again. This is the second one... the first one they shot was a good cat. He kept all the shit out of our yard, like moles and crap. Anyways, he was eating one of "her" birds and she shot him. I don't particularly like this one, but my parents and sisters do. Anyways, I'm going to go camping from my roof tomorrow after work. I'm going by satterfield welding to get my co2 tanks filled, hopefully they will, those crappy pre-filled tanks from walmart only last like 2 shots. They are too weak... I have my gun set to 300fps.
Anyways, I plan to mark the birds for dead. There will be orange fucking birds flying around. My mom is going to get a few cats from the shelter tomorrow and she's going to put bird feeders out in the yard and let the cats have a buffet on our property, and there is nothing she can do about it. I'm going to mark all the birds I can and am going to go tell her that if another cat goes missing that those orange birds will be in an orange bag on her porch when she wakes up one morning. 300 fps is lethal for a small animal, especially a bird. Maybe I need to get a retreiver do go run out and get then when I pop them out of the sky or whatever. First I will just shoot around them to mark them with orange paint at like 100fps. There will be fucking orange birds flying around. I swear to you. I found my camera, so I'll take some video and pics of my marked birds. tongue I just got off the phone with my aunt. She called about some linux stuff, anyways, I told her about the bird thing and she is going to drive 200 miles just to watch. That is damn funny. She was hysterical. Anyways, I'm going to mark them, then if doomsday comes, I'm going to put on a black trenchcoat and my black paitball helmet and go out on the roof and start popping them down at 300 fps and am going to put them in a bag and put them on her porch. The black trenchcoat is to keep warm and to give her the feeling that i'm serious. You know, just to set the mood. Eventually she will get tired of having lots of dead birds and decide to stop shooting our cats.



also, just so you know, i'm not doing the 'kitty buffet' thing he put above- i was just ranting about it last night...
-t-
Dr. Left
QUOTE (tamara @ Friday, 11 February 2005, 7:35 am)
QUOTE (POAC @ Friday, 11 February 2005, 9:32 am)
Holy shit.
What's the neighbohood ordinance on siting in the yard with a bb gun and plugging some sparrows all day every day for a week?

Just kidding. That would just escalate the issue. i wish i had some advice.

POAC, i'm really having a hard time dissuading my teenage son from doing something like that-

he wants to mark the birds with a paintball gun to send her a message-

here's what he posted on his website about it (sounds a bit violent, but he's upset- he's not a violent kid):

QUOTE
The neighbors killed one of our cats again. This is the second one... the first one they shot was a good cat. He kept all the shit out of our yard, like moles and crap. Anyways, he was eating one of "her" birds and she shot him. I don't particularly like this one, but my parents and sisters do. Anyways, I'm going to go camping from my roof tomorrow after work. I'm going by satterfield welding to get my co2 tanks filled, hopefully they will, those crappy pre-filled tanks from walmart only last like 2 shots. They are too weak... I have my gun set to 300fps.
Anyways, I plan to mark the birds for dead. There will be orange fucking birds flying around. My mom is going to get a few cats from the shelter tomorrow and she's going to put bird feeders out in the yard and let the cats have a buffet on our property, and there is nothing she can do about it. I'm going to mark all the birds I can and am going to go tell her that if another cat goes missing that those orange birds will be in an orange bag on her porch when she wakes up one morning. 300 fps is lethal for a small animal, especially a bird. Maybe I need to get a retreiver do go run out and get then when I pop them out of the sky or whatever. First I will just shoot around them to mark them with orange paint at like 100fps. There will be fucking orange birds flying around. I swear to you. I found my camera, so I'll take some video and pics of my marked birds. tongue I just got off the phone with my aunt. She called about some linux stuff, anyways, I told her about the bird thing and she is going to drive 200 miles just to watch. That is damn funny. She was hysterical. Anyways, I'm going to mark them, then if doomsday comes, I'm going to put on a black trenchcoat and my black paitball helmet and go out on the roof and start popping them down at 300 fps and am going to put them in a bag and put them on her porch. The black trenchcoat is to keep warm and to give her the feeling that i'm serious. You know, just to set the mood. Eventually she will get tired of having lots of dead birds and decide to stop shooting our cats.



also, just so you know, i'm not doing the 'kitty buffet' thing he put above- i was just ranting about it last night...
-t-

Yeah this could really esculate, the camera thing is a good idea though, if this jackass is doing this to your cats he's doing it to others, get him on tape and you have evidence enough to arrest the moron.

Doc
rexateyfor
T - Shoot that old bitch and here wild birds. If some nut job neighbor did that to my dogs youd be reading about another twenty somethign crazy white guy in Florida on a shooting spree.
Dr. Left
QUOTE (rexateyfor @ Friday, 11 February 2005, 7:53 am)
T - Shoot that old bitch and here wild birds. If some nut job neighbor did that to my dogs youd be reading about another twenty somethign crazy white guy in Florida on a shooting spree.

Even though, I would really do somthing crazy myself, I'm a do as I say type of guy. Yeah my first impulse would be to shoot the bastard myself, but there are better ways to get "even". You have the law on your side, get this idiot on tape and press charges, if he is using a handgun or rifle you can have him arrested for discharging a weapon in residental area, and as secondary charges animal abuse. You're a lawyer -t-, use your legal knowledge on this guy and the old bitch, don't act under emotions, you do and they win.

Doc
tamara
QUOTE (Dr. Left @ Friday, 11 February 2005, 10:03 am)
Even though, I would really do somthing crazy myself, I'm a do as I say type of guy. Yeah my first impulse would be to shoot the bastard myself, but there are better ways to get "even". You have the law on your side, get this idiot on tape and press charges, if he is using a handgun or rifle you can have him arrested for discharging a weapon in residental area, and as secondary charges animal abuse. You're a lawyer -t-, use your legal knowledge on this guy and the old bitch, don't act under emotions, you do and they win.

Doc

there's legal knowledge, and there's practical knowledge.

legally, nothing will be done (not via criminal proceedings).

however, i do plan to file a civil complaint- just to give her something productive to spend her time and money on. twisted.gif

i am going to the police station today. i am also calling t.e.a.r.s., the folks at the animal shelter said that tears will come down from birmingham and investigate- they came last year to make a lady free a caged squirrel.

however, just sitting back and hoping that the cops questioning would scare her enough to stop her hasn't worked.

she also complained last year when i drained my pool- said it 'washed her garden' away. (our homes are not THAT close to one another). so i stopped the draining, rented a pump, and pumped the water out another way... i've done all i could to accomodate this very bored woman.

no more.

i'm draining my pool as soon as she plants her garden.

i know it sounds petty, but this is war. i tolerated it long enough. this last cat is the final straw. i only have one left, and the bitch will think long and hard before she does anything to it.

i probably will let my son 'mark' the birds with the orange paint, too. it is harmless paint- just to send her a message.

i'm going to visit her in a couple of hours to deliver my declaration of war. hopefully i'll be calmed down a bit by then.

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-t-
Dr. Left
QUOTE (tamara @ Friday, 11 February 2005, 8:14 am)
QUOTE (Dr. Left @ Friday, 11 February 2005, 10:03 am)
Even though, I would really do somthing crazy myself, I'm a do as I say type of guy.  Yeah my first impulse would be to shoot the bastard myself, but there are better ways to get "even".  You have the law on your side, get this idiot on tape and press charges, if he is using a handgun or rifle you can have him arrested for discharging a weapon in residental area, and as secondary charges animal abuse.  You're a lawyer -t-, use your legal knowledge on this guy and the old bitch, don't act under emotions, you do and they win.

Doc

there's legal knowledge, and there's practical knowledge.

legally, nothing will be done (not via criminal proceedings).

however, i do plan to file a civil complaint- just to give her something productive to spend her time and money on. twisted.gif

i am going to the police station today. i am also calling t.e.a.r.s., the folks at the animal shelter said that tears will come down from birmingham and investigate- they came last year to make a lady free a caged squirrel.

however, just sitting back and hoping that the cops questioning would scare her enough to stop her hasn't worked.

she also complained last year when i drained my pool- said it 'washed her garden' away. (our homes are not THAT close to one another). so i stopped the draining, rented a pump, and pumped the water out another way... i've done all i could to accomodate this very bored woman.

no more.

i'm draining my pool as soon as she plants her garden.

i know it sounds petty, but this is war. i tolerated it long enough. this last cat is the final straw. i only have one left, and the bitch will think long and hard before she does anything to it.

i probably will let my son 'mark' the birds with the orange paint, too. it is harmless paint- just to send her a message.

i'm going to visit her in a couple of hours to deliver my declaration of war. hopefully i'll be calmed down a bit by then.

evil.gif


-t-

Damn, good luck -t-, wish I could do something.


Doc
fons_castaliae
QUOTE (tamara @ Friday, 11 February 2005, 8:48 am)
several months ago, two of my cats were shot - just after my old bitchy neighbor complained about the cats "eating [her] birds." these are wild birds, mind you, that she walks out every morning and spreads seed for- just setting them up in a kitty buffet.

First of all, the birds do not belong to your neighbor.
But the cats, undoubtedly, belonged to you.
They were and are domesticated pets; their association and relation to your family can be established.
I'd be tempted to seek some kind of damages or restitution from this neighbor, but at the same time, you have to live with her.
I think your situation is awful.
Dr. Left
QUOTE (fons_castaliae @ Friday, 11 February 2005, 11:12 am)
QUOTE (tamara @ Friday, 11 February 2005, 8:48 am)
several months ago, two of my cats were shot -  just after my old bitchy neighbor complained about the cats "eating [her] birds."  these are wild birds, mind you, that she walks out every morning and spreads seed for-  just setting them up in a kitty buffet.

First of all, the birds do not belong to your neighbor.
But the cats, undoubtedly, belonged to you.
They were and are domesticated pets; their association and relation to your family can be established.
I'd be tempted to seek some kind of damages or restitution from this neighbor, but at the same time, you have to live with her.
I think your situation is awful.

Me too....


Doc
Constitutionally Speaking
QUOTE
any suggestions for what i should say?

so far, i'm thinking something like this:

"your fucking wild birds are not as important as my children's happiness- you just killed my daughter's pet, her birthday pet- a stray that just happened to show up on her birthday at our house. i am going to bring her back over here, and i want you to explain to her why you've shot her pet.


I Think this would be the way to handle it - with normal people. If she has any heart at all it should work.

QUOTE
now, i want you to hear this: every time a cat goes missing from my house, i am going to the animal shelter to get THREE cats. you are actually increasing your cat problem with each death.


If she is just a bitch, this part should do nicely, especially if you follow through - but that will probably just get more cats killed.

Unfortunately, some people just suck. The only way to deal with them is to avoid them as much as possible. Is there anyway to keep the cats from going over to where "her" birds are???

Why do some people do these things?
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Dr. Left
QUOTE (Constitutionally Speaking @ Friday, 11 February 2005, 11:32 am)
QUOTE
any suggestions for what i should say?

so far, i'm thinking something like this:

"your fucking wild birds are not as important as my children's happiness- you just killed my daughter's pet, her birthday pet- a stray that just happened to show up on her birthday at our house. i am going to bring her back over here, and i want you to explain to her why you've shot her pet.


I Think this would be the way to handle it - with normal people. If she has any heart at all it should work.



If she is just a bitch, this part should do nicely, especially if you follow through - but that will probably just get more cats killed.

Unfortunately, some people just suck. The only way to deal with them is to avoid them as much as possible. Is there anyway to keep the cats from going over to where "her" birds are???

Why do some people do these things?
mad.gif

OMG the world must be comng to an end....I can't beleive this....you and I agree on something for a change....


doc
sky of mind
QUOTE
however, we didn't get the chance. now THAT cat has been killed.

i am at my wit's end- the cops won't do anything. i'm just about to walk over to her home to have a psycho-rage meltdown.

any suggestions for what i should say?



Get a really, REALLY BIG cat?
Constitutionally Speaking
QUOTE (Dr. Left @ Friday, 11 February 2005, 12:24 pm)
QUOTE (Constitutionally Speaking @ Friday, 11 February 2005, 11:32 am)
QUOTE
any suggestions for what i should say?

so far, i'm thinking something like this:

"your fucking wild birds are not as important as my children's happiness- you just killed my daughter's pet, her birthday pet- a stray that just happened to show up on her birthday at our house. i am going to bring her back over here, and i want you to explain to her why you've shot her pet.


I Think this would be the way to handle it - with normal people. If she has any heart at all it should work.



If she is just a bitch, this part should do nicely, especially if you follow through - but that will probably just get more cats killed.

Unfortunately, some people just suck. The only way to deal with them is to avoid them as much as possible. Is there anyway to keep the cats from going over to where "her" birds are???

Why do some people do these things?
mad.gif

OMG the world must be comng to an end....I can't beleive this....you and I agree on something for a change....


doc

There might be hope for this world after all!!!! laugh.gif


Glad to see we can agree on at least something Doc!
tamara
QUOTE (sky of mind @ Friday, 11 February 2005, 3:04 pm)
QUOTE
however, we didn't get the chance. now THAT cat has been killed.

i am at my wit's end- the cops won't do anything. i'm just about to walk over to her home to have a psycho-rage meltdown.

any suggestions for what i should say?



Get a really, REALLY BIG cat?

i'm thinking TIGER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

LOLOLOLOL


i have already talked to the woman before, she just denies it and she is just a bitch. talking won't work-

i appreciate your nice thoughts and comments about my situation...

i'll keep ya'll posted...

btw- there are already four orange birds flying around outside now... my son doesn't hit the bird, he hits the tree and the 'splat' gets the orange spray on 'em...

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i'm gonna try to chill him out a bit... it is kinda sad that my nature loving children are all looking out the window and watching gordon turn birds orange and cheering- just goes to show you how wars escalate -- and the birds-n-cats are caught in the crossfire...


-t-

-t-
tamara
btw... i'm thinking of an old hymn that maybe we'll play over the pool speakers REALLY LOUD while gordon is out there with the paintball gun...


I sing because I'm happy,
I sing because I'm free;
For His eye is on the sparrow,
And I know He watches me.



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-t-
rooby roo
does the bitch have an address?
Dr. Left
QUOTE (tamara @ Friday, 11 February 2005, 3:43 pm)
btw... i'm thinking of an old hymn that maybe we'll play over the pool speakers REALLY LOUD while gordon is out there with the paintball gun...


I sing because I'm happy,
I sing because I'm free;
For His eye is on the sparrow,
And I know He watches me.



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-t-

L0L love ya -t-


Doc
Catherine
Tamara...I love cats...and have three little refugees that are my beloved pets and friends. If someone deliberately hurt my cats, I'd have to have vengeance...sooner or later, in some way, even if it took me years to get the avenging accomplished.

There's got to be a way to have this woman charged with something pertaining to cruelty to animals...have you contacted PETA, or your local humane society?

Contact the media..hell, contact Animal Planet with your story.

That damned bitch of a neighbor needs a come-uppance in the worst way, and I don't mean doing something to the birds...they're just as innocent as your poor cats, but done to her personally. Sugar in her gas tank? Tacks in her driveway? Buy the book Don't Get Mad, Get Even and read it for inspiration...

Research, research, research what you can do. How do others avenge wrongdoings? ...legally or not? Avenge each of your dear friends...I would. I wish I lived near you...I'd help!

Hit her in the pocketbook somehow if you can...that always sends a message.

Can you keep your remaining cats inside?

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