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Constitutionally Speaking
Your side claims because Clinton was not removed after his impeachment, he was innocent of all the crimes he committed.

I made the same argument here that your side did with Clinton.

My tongue was somewhat in my cheek, but the Boland amendment (the law that was broken) was wrong in the first place, and the Dems in congress were trying to prop up a vicious tyrant.

Congress was willfully ignorant or openly supporting the slaughter the Sandanista Govt. perpetrated on it's Citizens. Much like the left is now doing with Chavez in Venezuela, they fawned all over the tyrants and demonized the opposition. I do not wish to defend some of the actions that the Contras perpetrated either, but I will defend the results of Reagan's policy of free elections. Nicaragua is now TRULY democratic and is relatively peaceful and free. Reagans administration funded the side that wanted free elections by selling Iranian supplied arms to the Contras. The Iranians then used their influence with the terrorists to release the hostages.

The left was screaming at Reagan to do something, and he did. He should have done it differently, but his method did get the hostages home AND helped to expedite free elections in Central America.

Wrong method, right motive, right results.

The right method would have been to expose the Democrats that were supporting the Sandanista's for what they were and change the law.

But given the Press of the day, the truth never had a chance.
Ronnie Jakers
Ummmm CS: TJ already started this thread here:

"Iran Contra is a Smear Campaign" - CS

fons_castaliae
QUOTE (Constitutionally Speaking @ Tuesday, 8 February 2005, 7:08 am)
My tongue was somewhat in my cheek, but the Boland amendment  (the law that was broken) was wrong in the first place, and the Dems in congress were trying to prop up a vicious tyrant.


The Sandinista government was made legitimate in the eyes of the world by the overwhelming support for the revolution that brought it to power.
It was the will of the people that made the Sandinista government.
It was that reality that conservatives here could not stomach.

Clinton would have been a tyrant if he had not been elected.
After his "impeachment" he was a lame duck, his legislative recommendations could be all be viewed as dead letters, but he remained president in the eyes of the people.
Both of Bush II's "elections" are suspect. He is a tyrant on the evidence.

Wrong or right, the Boland Amendment had never been ruled unconstitutional.
It was the law and it was broken. Period. Live with it.
POAC
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