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yankhadenuf
What is AIPAC doing and do they have the right to do that in America?
sky of mind
I believe AIPAC is an (UNREGISTERED) Lobby group operating in this country, and because they represent Israel, THE American power base in the middle east, they are given incredible freedom and leeway to do almost anything they want, including espionage as long as they don't get caught.

I further believe these people work hand in hand with the people of the PNAC because of Israels power position in the middle east, and their possible ability to help progress the New World Order.

To the PNAC, which in name only has disbanded, Israel can be thought of as the 51st state.
yankhadenuf
QUOTE(sky of mind @ Saturday, 18 November 2006, 2:54 pm) [snapback]80033[/snapback]

...To the PNAC, which in name only has disbanded, Israel can be thought of as the 51st state.


PNAC has morphed into the FDD evil.gif :

http://www.defenddemocracy.org/biographies/biographies.htm


sky of mind
QUOTE(yankhadenuf @ Saturday, 18 November 2006, 2:07 pm) [snapback]80064[/snapback]




Judging by membership alone, the morphing seems complete.
As I said, they weren't about to just go away.

Thanks for the link Yank. That's an important one.
Rousseau
The more I see the stealthy creeping around of these weasels, their sloughing of their old, worn out and exposed fascist skins, and their glistening freshly oiled corpses slipping into organisations which sound wholesome and fruitful, the more I worry about finding a means to permanently end their reign of perverse terror on the future of the World..... evil.gif
yankhadenuf
QUOTE(Rousseau @ Sunday, 19 November 2006, 6:45 am) [snapback]80104[/snapback]

The more I see the stealthy creeping around of these weasels, their sloughing of their old, worn out and exposed fascist skins, and their glistening freshly oiled corpses slipping into organisations which sound wholesome and fruitful, the more I worry about finding a means to permanently end their reign of perverse terror on the future of the World..... evil.gif



We should be able to stop them at the beginning by disbanding all groups that support criminal violence and warmongering against human beings from Non-Profit Organization status and Lobby (registered or unregistered) status. It's ridiculous these groups exist, they are not "charities or community services". These are racketeers NOT "organizations". It will not violate their free speech rights either > conspiracy to commit murder and collecting money to influence others to murder or warmonger is not free speech. That is why the IRA is illegal in America. Any other group that does that, I would think would be committing treason as well.
sky of mind
QUOTE(yankhadenuf @ Sunday, 19 November 2006, 5:48 am) [snapback]80110[/snapback]

We should be able to stop them at the beginning by disbanding all groups that support criminal violence and warmongering against human beings from Non-Profit Organization status and Lobby (registered or unregistered) status. It's ridiculous these groups exist, they are not "charities or community services". These are racketeers NOT "organizations". It will not violate their free speech rights either > conspiracy to commit murder and collecting money to influence others to murder or warmonger is not free speech. That is why the IRA is illegal in America. Any other group that does that, I would think would be committing treason as well.




It seems to me that if somehow we could simply apply the rule of law equally to all social strata, including that of the top 2% and these bastards that live among them and work with and for them, then there would be much less underhanded and outright illegal activity that takes years, even decades to battle legally.

Look how long it took to take Enron down, and by the time it was taken down, it was much to late to save the people most effected, and in the end that was nearly every American in one way or another.

These sorts of people will never go away, but someday, somehow we outta level the playing field just a little. This social warfare needs a set of ethics rules.
yankhadenuf
QUOTE(sky of mind @ Sunday, 19 November 2006, 12:40 pm) [snapback]80126[/snapback]

...These sorts of people will never go away, but someday, somehow we outta level the playing field just a little. This social warfare needs a set of ethics rules.


Exactly, sky! You don't see the Bloods and Crypts qualifying for Non-Profit or Lobby status wry2.gif . If rich people do it too, that doesn't make it any better! And they are the plotters and funders and lobbyists of the violence, you never see the rich racketeers enlist for their own battles and wars! I don't see how & why these racketeers should continue , they should be disbanded today. I've seen fraternities lose their charter for less.
Rousseau
The biggest problem is that these sleezo's are slick operators, they know the ropes, heck, they EVEN wrote some of the law books protecting their vile influence, and they are just fine enough to be able to slither under the radars of normal citizens, who have difficulty equating these perverse idealogues with obvious pond scum like Barbie, Goebbels, Beria, Goering and Mussolini !

Make no mistake, the Kristol's and Wolfowitzes are every bit as dangerous as the last generation of misguided zealots, only they wear suits and ties and wave Democracy and Christianity as their Prime Motivations. wall.gif

Only, I doubt that that's what gets them hard. I suspect that black leather trench coats and 3 in the morning kicking in of doors might be more their trip..... eek.gif
sky of mind
QUOTE(Rousseau @ Sunday, 19 November 2006, 10:35 am) [snapback]80138[/snapback]

The biggest problem is that these sleezo's are slick operators, they know the ropes, heck, they EVEN wrote some of the law books protecting their vile influence, and they are just fine enough to be able to slither under the radars of normal citizens, who have difficulty equating these perverse idealogues with obvious pond scum like Barbie, Goebbels, Beria, Goering and Mussolini !

Make no mistake, the Kristol's and Wolfowitzes are every bit as dangerous as the last generation of misguided zealots, only they wear suits and ties and wave Democracy and Christianity as their Prime Motivations. wall.gif

Only, I doubt that that's what gets them hard. I suspect that black leather trench coats and 3 in the morning kicking in of doors might be more their trip..... eek.gif




Honestly? I think they do it because they think it's their fatherly duty.
They think they know what's best, and that their living better than most is just an expected perk.
Their ability to rationalize their self rightness is exactly the same as Ted Haggart Living such a monsterous lie for his entire life, and fooling his entire national congregation through extreme hypocricy. Up to the moment he was exposed, in his quiet moments, when ever he might have questioned his own actions, he found a way to rationalize that it was OK, and kept on doing it.

This is one of the reasons we have laws, because sociopathic people exist. And this is not a brain disorder. These are learned habits and behaviors. Which means there is no cure, and as such will always exist.
yankhadenuf
QUOTE(Rousseau @ Sunday, 19 November 2006, 1:35 pm) [snapback]80138[/snapback]

The biggest problem is that these sleezo's are slick operators, they know the ropes, heck, they EVEN wrote some of the law books protecting their vile influence, and they are just fine enough to be able to slither under the radars of normal citizens, who have difficulty equating these perverse idealogues with obvious pond scum like Barbie, Goebbels, Beria, Goering and Mussolini !...


As with those Nazi hoodlums, the neocon thugs have left an incredible paper (and photo) trail , but this time they are so arrogant they left it on the internet too. That is how they nailed the Nazis at Nuremberg, their own meticulous attention to detailed records!
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