Lowest scum on this earth.

Thats all i have to say.

All Repubs or just some? Why?

I have the same feeling, but am willing to change my mind for individuals, if proven worthwhile.
I am beyond actively looking for that one rightious Republican. Let them find me!



Buck.

If you burn your hand on the stove, you learn to stop touching it.
But, we're told it;s not always hot, that sometimes touching the stove is a really good thing to do.
So we touch, and we touch and we touch, and every time it burns us.

I'm not inclined to trust that logic anymore.
Let them walk their talk for a while, and I will see them lead by their example.

Until then, fuck um all.

I'll specify.

I hate the republicans who voted for the trillion-dollar tax deferral that my generation will have to pay for. They get the popularity for being Santa Claus handing out tax cuts, knowing that someday some Democrat will have to raise taxes to pay back all that debt. I hate you.

I hate the republicans who sent our troops into a foreign country where they're not wanted with no plans for victory, and now say, "you don't have a plan!" It's your war, assholes. You come up with a plan.

Yeah, those are the republicans that I hate.

What a brilliant concept "Jack-Ass". Just what i would expect from a 20 yr old punk from the Chicago area who has not lived long enough to know shit about anything except runnning of at the mouth & sucking up social programs while getting fucked up.

Well Dan, you make a lot of assumptions for someone who has never met this young man.
It's one thing to make broad generalizations, it's quite another to pick one single person to fuck with.

I'm 51 and have lived in many places and survived many things. Care to try your fucked up logic on me?



Are you a Republican, Dan?




Grand Old Pedaphiles

And such an Ad Hom is what i can expect from a "insert ad hom and hasty generalization here" like you!

I did not hate them before, but I have come to see them in a whole new light. I would advocate anyone having power instead of them, even the Democrats, who I do not see as being wise or courageous or having genuine ideas of their own, but at least they are not so blatantly arrogant and corrupt as this current band of Republican brothers we have now.

What have we here?

A pissed-off southern American flagwaver has come to save the Republicans from us evil degenerate northern American Democratic "punks". I like it. Ya'all be sure to run me down too, ya hear, Southern man?

Thank you all. I guess we are a lot like NATO. Mess with one of us then you have to mess with all of us.

That man, who is clearly a troll, only proves my point. While of course not every single republican out there is a scummy asshole, the majority of them are and messages such as the one posted only reinforce the plain and simple truth.

Those of us who can think, understood it this way.

You know I always got your back Jack, us chicago guys gotta stick together!

Happy, just for the sake of argument, do you also hate the few Dems who voted for the tax cuts and the many Dems who voted to support the war?

Or the even smaller group of Dems that voted for the terror bill. There is enough blame to go around on both sides for a long time. Currently though, the PNACneo-cons are controlling the boot licking Repugs in Congress, any Dem that continues to side with them should be voted out and dealt with accordingly as well.

Yep, Republicans Suck and Democrats swallow. Means they both have dick coming out of their mouths all the time.

Name one good thing a politcal party has done and I will show you ten things they have done wrong and in most cases they even mess up the one good thing they did.

Also, on a side note. LTDan, you do know that traditionally Southern Gentlemen are Democrats, only traitors to the north have ever been Republicans. You a traitor or are you just brainwashed?

Well, I guess when you throw a generalization like that up there, Jack...you have to expect some return fire. Wouldnt have been any different than a person saying " I hate Baptists, Black people, Border Patrol Agents, Police, they are scum of the earth". Ya know? After seeing and hearing your points of view I pretty much assumed it would be clear to all who knew you what you meant. That being, "I hate some of the Republican mind set and the closed minded idiots who belive all that horseshit". Thats my take. Cause I know you dont hate me, Jack....do you?


And NATO...pafuckingleeze....aint exactly a good current analogy now is it?

Don't worry, i have a secret weapon






I thought you weren't republican. I did like you but now i don't know....





Yeah but what are you gonna to do?

Actually, republcians can be pretty good eating if they're prepared properly. Tabasco sauce usually helps, too. Occasionally you'll find a greasy or stringy one. But they're not hear as tough as we used to hear.

Too fatty actually.

Whoa!!! My arteries clogged up just looking at those fat fucks!!

Well, all I can say about Republicans is keep your kids supervised when around them. There's no telling how many more Foley's are on the loose. Maybe this latest affair will shake some more out of the woodwork.

Fucking pervs.

Ha!

The problem with that thinking Jack, is that polarization isnt good for any of us. Many republicans...and I do mean MANY don't think in terms of what you see. The loud demonstrative "W is right" no matter what he does isnt really a majority. The Republicans of late are fucked up as a soup sandwich. Speaking as one who see's this, the Conservative mind set never bought into the actions of the current administration.

If I said I hated all Democrats wouldnt you brand me as a close minded idiot who can't see beyond my nose? I would just be a dumb ass who didnt agree with the brilliance of the all seeing liberals. My point is, to any who care, there is thinking on both sides that makes sense. It doesnt ALL come from the left and it doesnt all come from the right. I think both sides get tired of generalizations and blanket statements.

Footnote:
Last night I got a call from the Republican Party of Texas as I have donated some pretty good sums of money in the past. The caller said "do you approve of what the Republicans are doing in Washington right now"? If I had answered "Yes" then they would say, can we count on your continued support? If I would have said "No", they would have said, Thats exactly why we need your support to get some REAL men and women in Washington to push the Republican ideals.
I took a different approach. I took the deeply intellectual and educated route. I merely told him to fuck off.

I suspect Mr. Abell that your response to this circumstance is not at all rare these days.


And about pollarity. Today this duality is a fact.
We didn't make the fire, but we're damn about ready to go ahead and burn the house down.

Fuck um, fuck um all!
And as God told Lott to leave Gommorah and not look back, may the house of GOP burn to the ground,
and if there is one good Republican among them, let him remove himself from them. And after he has walked his talk, we will see his leadership by his example.

But frankly, I don't hold out much realistic hope here.

The whole tone on Capital Hill has to change.

Do you beleive in Karma?

Absolutely I believe in Karma, only it's not just some metaphysical magic.
Karma is a natural balancing of very real physical realities.

If you lie, eventually it WILL come back on you.
Tell the truth and that too will come back to you.
Each individual creates the realities and peramiters of their individual world and each world functions with in the rules and effects each of us creates for ourselves.

Karma is as real as breathing.

Besides, you believe in Sasquach.

When your whole admnistration has based its very existence on a lie (keep reminding Americans to be scared, and they wont notice how we are fucking over the taxpayer by siphoning billions into our contractor friends pockets in Iraq) eventually those lies, like bad karma, will catch up to you.

The corruption and dishonesty of the Bush Admin. is as bad as any U.S. administration from times past and even Republicans are waking up to this fact.

Better late than never.

LtDan never came back?

Shame. I was really starting to like that guy.

The ones that are trying to deliberately FUCK my generation, yes. If someone is holding a shotgun to your head, I won't hate you even if you do something terrible. But there is no one with a shotgun at Bush's head telling him he has to lie to us every fucking day.

"by far the vast majority of these tax cuts go to those at the bottom of the income scale" -- too stupid to be president

"You can't really distinguish between Saddam and al-qaida." -- murder monkey

"Saddam threw the weapons inspectors out" -- war-is-peace

I know who's trying to rape me up the ass and it's not democrats.

Hating all members of a group based on some characteristic(s) that you ascribe to the group is the definition of bigotry. Thanks. I know what you're all about now.

I really don't hate Republicans.. I hate what they stand for.. They have no concept for humanity, caring of a human soul, nor what the human body has to endure to keep it alive.

However, I will tell you this.. I can tell by looking at a person, if they are a Republican... Please note this when you go out into the malls, super markets, etc. Look at the persons face, head, and eyes. 97% of all Republicans.. are "narrow" between the eyes, and have a "small brain pan"... My father-in-law (pass a way now) pointed this out to me one day back in 1957 at a super market... Sure enough, the person was a Republican. Since that time, I have pointed this out to my wife, when looking at a person on TV, before learning they were Republican...

How did you arrive at the figure 97%?

What exactly do you think Republicans stand for?

My guess, 97% is a random number chosen to make a point more than state a fact.


Republicans stand for everything that has gotten us in the situation this country is in today,
which has been distanced from the constitution, your field of expertise, ostracized in the world community and generally much less safe and secure on nearly every level.

That's what Republicans today stand for. Including the 30% of Americans who STILL support the Liar in Thief!



As Fisher said, I don't hate people, but I do hate what they have done to America and the American ideal!

Can you give me some examples of what "everything that has gotten us in the situation this country is in today" means?

I checked out the available scientific evidence. There is no such thing as global warming, evolution is a myth and, indeed, 97% of Republicans have small brain pans.

Hey Jubal, The 97%.. meaning I'm giving myself a 3% error on not letting the person utter a word. When the 3% speaks, it changes to 100%.

What do Republicans stand for, you ask? 100% the opposite of Democrats.

I see. OK, thanks.

WOW! soon2B, I thought I was the only one who knew that "lingo" on the structure or formation of a Republican brain.

Many years ago, I was speaking at a Democrat rally, and I mentioned the term.. "small brain pan" to the group. One person wanted to know what that meant.. I had to do a medical term on him. The brain lays in a bone like structure in the head. If it never grows( growing represents the knowledge as the human body as it matures (maturity come from a growing brain), therefore the brain never grows.. Now you get my drift on what a Republican is..

Cheers. Thanks. Have a nice day.

Gee, let's see:
-The debt
-The Iraq mess
-The elimination of the middle class
-The outlawing of constitutional rights
-The fact that the rest of the world thinks we're insane
-Exploding medical costs
-Nuclear proliferation
-The doctrine of "Might makes right"
-The doctrine of "I said it, therefore it's true."

But "I hate republicans" really says it all.

Fair point. I see this as an almost entirely Republican problem.


Democrats in Congress voted overwhelmingly in favor of the Authorization for the Use of Military Force in Iraq.


Let's not overheat our rhetoric. The middle class is still there. I know, I'm a member.


Presuming you mean the systematic dismantling of Constitutional rights, I agree. But it's not a solely Republican problem. Bill Clinton supported a statute to limit habeas corpus, and as bad as Alberto Gonzales is, he hasn't killed 80 Americans in Texas. Yet (fingers crossed).


Hyperbole. Many nations of the world are helping us do whatever it is we're doing in Iraq. More are helping in Afghanistan. And we have strong support for sanctions against North Korea. And we're playing kind of a "good cop, bad cop" game with the EU as regards Iran.


Fair cop, guv. At least if you mean "Indifference to and inaction on exploding medical costs."


In North Korea, maybe. But there's lots of other proliferation about which the Dems were either supportive or complacent.


As opposed to President Clinton's "hearts and flowers" doctrine in Kosovo? Those were real bombs, amigo.


Hardly a problem unique to Republicans.

Sorry, Jubal, what nations are helping you to fuck up the Middle East, apart from England, a few soldiers from Poland, and dribs and drabs from nations who thought that it would be neat to go along with the PNAC puppet because he looked so sure of himself ? (And I'm sure that that glazed thousand yard stare looking into the future (sic) fooled a lot of you too...)
The vast majority of World nations were overwhelmingly opposed to this sinister oil and land for permanent bases grab, and virtually the majority of the planets population were against this little imperialist adventure in the ME; As for the perception of the USA outside of your soon-to-be-walled-in frontiers, never before has the American leadership been so questioned, and never before have so many countries vilified the directions taken by a US government plunging into fascism with such intensity !!

Americans individually don't tend to be hated, but there are either 50,000,000 jerks (or Diesucka voting machines...) that seem unable to grasp basic reality and persist in making uninformed choices, and supporting the worst US administration ever seen in the Planet up until now. Shit, even Caligula seems like a nice guy compared to the hi-jinks of these Republican clowns !!

I take it you mean Great Britain. Other nations include Poland, as you mentioned, and Italy, Spain, the Czech Republic, Australia, and a number of others.

By the way, exactly what do you mean by "you?" I'm not doing anything at all to the Middle East. And your assumption that I belong to one group or another harms me not at all. It just makes you look like a fool.


How exaclty was this overwhelming opposition expressed?


In that case, I'm sure you can back up your statement with some quotes from newspapers and such. Fire away.


This may seem odd to you, based on the conclusions to which you have leapt without the first shred of support, but I agree that the Bush administration is the worst in US history, followed by the Buchanan administration and the Hoover administration.

Ho ho !! The Italians seem to be out of there after the nasty little "Il Duce" was ousted from his court by the voting Italian public, who had protested "en-masse" in the largest Italian public protests since the death of Judge Falcone, and insisted that a full Italian troop withdrawl was needed to try and salvage some pride for the inanities and bushlicking of Berlo. (Especially after the US troops insisted on machine gunning with zest anyone looking Italian in Iraq...)

The Spanish have already gone, same scenario, demagogue politicians wowed by the glitz of BUSHCO and the promise of lucrative contracts get washed away in a democratic tide by the citizens that they scorned and refused to heed...same thing in Spain, huge protests against the US warmongering, which fell on deaf leaders ears, until voting time !!

The Japanese are packing too, and the Ozzies will be there only as long as they have a moron in power in Oz !!

Sorry, Jubal, I mistakenly assumed that you were a voting American citizen, and therefore had some small ability to change or partake in the course of destruction that the Bushco fools are steering that once great nation in. (Rousseau spanks himself vigourously and repeats "I must not assume anything, because I make an Ass out of U and Me......")

As for the mass protests, to see the sheer volumes of information, just Google it, or better, read some of the archived stuff here, TJ has an awesome collection of information. "Search" is your friend.

That you don't support the Bush administration doesn't seem odd to me at all. You can spell, you can type, and you can even quote Latin. This means that you are capable of thinking, and the thinking person is NOT a fan of Bush...unless you have big $hare$ in the arms or oil or security trade...!!

Shucks, thank y'all for lettin' me drop in. I think th' old lady's got the bong ready, catch you later!!

By "overwhelmingly," you mean less than half, right? And this resolution allowed Bush to attack only if diplomacy failed, so the worst you can say is that Democrats wrongly abdicated authority to Bush.

I thought you were a lawyer... ok. Um, Tell that to the UAW, while the NLRB rules that nurses can't unionize.

But he didn't create courts of no resort. Do you know how many terrorism detainees have been executed in US custody? And you really think that Bill Clinton turned the ATF into a bunch of murderers between Inaugeration in January and the Waco raid in February? (sigh) cons...

Our president went on television and said "Saddam threw the inspectors out." On the next channel UN inspectors were bulldozing Al-Simood missiles. And we allegedly reelected the monkey.

I was talking about continuing nuclear proliferation in the United States. The Republicans are saying "you don't need nukes but we need MORE nukes, and we just might use them against you preemptively." But go ahead and tell me which dems you're talking about.

It's all about Clinton isn't it? You can at least debate whether Kosovo was worth the humanitarian cost.

What democrats have claimed to know better than the world's leading experts in any field? I mean, not just going against their recommendations but actually trashing their authority? Bush has never acknowledged any higher authority than his "gut."

Downing street memos.
Hurricane Katrina.
Diminished social programs
Tax breaks for the super rich
Tax breaks for big oil
Illegal preemptive invasion of a country that did not attack us and was not a threat!

Shall we continue from here?

First of all there isn't any Republicans running or in political office right now. They are a dead species right now, RIP. What we have now are fascist that are trying to describe themselves with the word Republican or conservitive.

So what we need to is call them what they are. I call them, "The American Fascist Party", with the grand wizards of Ken Mehlman and Karl Rove. What someone needs to do is send them pointy white hoods with eye holes cut out for a birthday or Christmas present....

Yes I also hate this current incarnation of wannabe Republican scum that we have in this country. I have made a vow to never vote for a canidate that considers themselves either Replublican or conservative again. If a canidate is running unoposed I will do a write in for Pluto or Micky Mouse or some other cartoon character.

Curtis

You may be right. I'll check the vote tally, and if you are, I'll admit it.


I am. So what? The middle class still exists, and it isn't composed entirely of union members.


So that makes doing away with habeas corpus in many cases all right?


No. I would suggest you don't either.


His watch, his responsibility. And it was the FBI, not ATF. ATF was out of it by that point.


Bush lied. Big news.


Sorry, my misunderstanding. I'm talking about the pro-Israel Democrats who were strangely silent when it was patently obvioius that Israel was developing nukes. And if I recall correctly, both houses of Congress were in Democratic hands, and the White House was in Democratic hands for part of the time that India and Pakistan were developing nukes.


No, it isn't. I don't think much of Clinton, but he was an OK president. My point was you seem to think the Republicans have a "Might is Right" philosophy. Well, Democrats have not been shy about applying might when they think it's right. Korea, Vietnam, and Kosovo were all started by Democrats.


My point being that every administration, and every politician for that matter, claims to be in possession of the Truth.

Please don't think I'm defending President Bush here. As I said elsewhere, I think this will go down in history as the worst administration thus far. But I don't agree that all the evil in the world, or even the country, is to be laid at the door of the Bush administration.

[quote]Fair point. I see this as an almost entirely Republican problem.

Entirely a Repug problem considering the economic condition handed Bush by the previous administration.[/quote]

[quote]Democrats in Congress voted overwhelmingly in favor of the Authorization for the Use of Military Force in Iraq.

Democrats voted to support because we had just been attacked by outside forces.
How many of those who signed on now wish they had not, and how many feel they had been duped?[/quote]
Yep, outside forces that had nothing to do with Iraq. I would suggest that it's the responsibility of a member of Congress to be able to identify the enemy. I would also suggest that it's their responsibility to not be duped.

[quote]Let's not overheat our rhetoric. The middle class is still there. I know, I'm a member.

The middle class is erroding, not gone, but not what it once was, while the lower brackts are expanding.[/quote]
The world economy is in flux. I agree that we can do a better job of managing the change.

[quote]Presuming you mean the systematic dismantling of Constitutional rights, I agree. But it's not a solely Republican problem. Bill Clinton supported a statute to limit habeas corpus, and as bad as Alberto Gonzales is, he hasn't killed 80 Americans in Texas. Yet (fingers crossed).

To equate Bush tactics are expanding presidentiual powers with Clintons work is laughable, and for a smart man I'm somewhat surprised you make this claim.[/quote]
Are you saying President Clinton didn't support and sign a bill limiting habeas corpus? Are you saying 80 Americans weren't killed by FBI agents in Waco on his watch? Personally, I don't consider any killing of 80 Americans by their own government "laughable."

[quote]Hyperbole. Many nations of the world are helping us do whatever it is we're doing in Iraq. More are helping in Afghanistan. And we have strong support for sanctions against North Korea. And we're playing kind of a "good cop, bad cop" game with the EU as regards Iran.

So you are claiming that respect around the world for the US has not been eroded because of Bush policies?[/quote]
Nope, not claiming that at all. Go back and read the point I was answering.

[quote]Fair cop, guv. At least if you mean "Indifference to and inaction on exploding medical costs."

In North Korea, maybe. But there's lots of other proliferation about which the Dems were either supportive or complacent.

Can't argue with this. I doubt anyone here has ever claimed the Democrats were saints not needing any oversite.[/quote]
My whole point. Thanks.

[quote]As opposed to President Clinton's "hearts and flowers" doctrine in Kosovo? Those were real bombs, amigo.
Hardly a problem unique to Republicans.

Isn't it interesting that while Clinton had his east european action, the Republican were all over his ass for it. Now you want to continue to blame the man for doing far less than what mr Bush has done to Iraq and Afghanistan?[/quote]
I don't blame him at all. I thought Kosovo was the purest war our country ever fought. I was merely saying that "Might is Right" is not a doctrine limited to Republicans.


[quote]Downing street memos.[/quote]
What about them? The Bush administration lied. We already covered this.

[quote]Hurricane Katrina.[/quote]
The Bush administration was responsible for operating the DHS, and it was a horrendous screwup. But the Democrats are responsible for creating DHS. I think that was a bad idea, and if you recall, President Bush opposed it.

[quote]Diminished social programs[/quote]
All I can say in one (reasonably) short post is some should be diminished, some should be expanded, some should be terminated, and some should be created. That's a whole new thread.

[quote]Tax breaks for the super rich
Tax breaks for big oil[/quote]
I don't approve of either.

[quote]Illegal preemptive invasion of a country that did not attack us and was not a threat![/quote]
Last time. I opposed the invasion of Iraq from day one. I still do. What, in your opinion, was illegal about it?

[quote]Shall we continue from here?[/quote]
Sure. This is getting good.

[quote name='Jubal' date='Thursday, 12 October 2006, 1:16 pm' post='75503']

No. I would suggest you don't either.[/quote]
Nobody does, but since there aren't pictures on "60 minutes" people dismiss these deaths as isolated incidents.

"His watch, his responsibility. And it was the FBI, not ATF. ATF was out of it by that point."
Bill Clinton knew about everything in every department within.. what, three weeks of taking office? Yeah, that's a reasonable thing to expect.

"And if I recall correctly, both houses of Congress were in Democratic hands, and the White House was in Democratic hands for part of the time that India and Pakistan were developing nukes."
India tested its first nuke during the Nixon administration, I believe. You might be right about Pakistan, 1994? Now who was it who cancelled the sanctions against Pakistan? Oh yeah, W.

"My point was you seem to think the Republicans have a "Might is Right" philosophy. Well, Democrats have not been shy about applying might when they think it's right."
You don't seem to be understanding the phrase "might makes right." It means that if you have might, you're right no matter what. That's republicans.

"My point being that every administration, and every politician for that matter, claims to be in possession of the Truth."

But democrats don't claim to understand astrophysics better than the astrophysics, or evolution better than the evolutionary biologists, or the potentials for embryonic stem cells better than embryologists, or economics better than nobel prize winners, or al-Qaida better than FBI agents who have studied bin-Laden for years, or Iraq's weapons better than UN inspectors. They might not agree with them, but they won't sic Karl Rove , Bob Novak, and the Swiftboat Veterans to personally attack them.

"Please don't think I'm defending President Bush here. As I said elsewhere, I think this will go down in history as the worst administration thus far. But I don't agree that all the evil in the world, or even the country, is to be laid at the door of the Bush administration."
Look, I'm an independent. If someone's enabling Bush, they're as guilty as he is. These people need to be stopped, and we need clean elections. After that we can talk about Bill Clinton.
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