Being originally from the Great Pacific Northwest myself, I grew hearing up about Sasquatch, commonly known as Bigfoot. Just for a hoot, I thought I'd ask how many believers there are here? I've got a couple stories handed down through my family from generation to generation about personal experiences, but I'll save them for later.

As for me? Yes, I think it is perfectly possible for Bigfoot to be a reality. How bout you?

Big foot is about as credible as flying saucers.

I'm serious.


Flying saucers from other planets are within possibility, and so is big foot.
But, untill someone provides credible solid scientific evidence of either one, neither exists.

It believe it is possible and people I trust have stated their case for and some against. I lean more towards the possible then the un-possible when it comes ot anything though.

HAHA HA , my 10 year old is really into researching Bigfoot right now, so it was funny to see this post! Does he exist? its kind of like the argument with an atheist who says God doesn't exist. Until you prove he doesn't we just have to believe. My buddies and I have had some strange experiences camping up in the Appalachians, to the point where we were like WTF? So I would have to lean towards probable at this point.

Well, when I was a kid, I used to go camping, hiking, hunting, fishing every freaking weekend in fact any excuse I could find I would be out in the woods with some buddies. I've got a plethora of stories about Sasquatch. I'm part Washo and Klamath Indian, and I remember my grandmothers telling me stories about bigfoot that were handed down to them as children by their tribal elders and they passed some of them on to me, they have some pretty cool lore about him. After I graduated HS, I worked for Weyerhauser for four years as a lumberjack and we used to spend months during the fireseason at camp, waaayyy out in the boonies. We used to hear all kinds of weird shit late at night, it sometimes made the hair on the back of my neck stand up, goose pimples, the whole nine yards.

I have family members who say they saw one. And I saw one once too, at least, I think I did.

Why? Like I, and somehow sky, has said, disbelief should be the default state.

Your kidding me, right? And you criticize me when i apply this exact same standard to religion! Ugh....


Either way, it is totally possible for Bigfoot to exist, but there just is zero credible evidence to believe that he does. And because of that, i dont believe. Just like I also dont believe in ghosts or psychics or aliens!

NYGG,

Pay attention. I will say this again.
I am not religouos, not even a little bit!
I am also, very intollerant of intollerance!



As to Big foot, ghosts, psychics and aliens.
Until someone can prove that they don't exist, they just might!

Now, i wont scream "hypocrite" because i believe both statements are correct. Let's try to clear this up.

There is no evidence for the listed phenomena.

This doesn't prove they don't exist.

BUT since there is no evidence, we should assume they do NOT exist.

Would this more accurately describe the way you feel?

Anyone else agree/disagree with this idea?

sure, this is ok, but the rules of logic/reason say the opposite.

Think of this in a courtroom setting.

"Your honor, I don't have real evidence to prove this man killed Ms.Jones, but unless the defense can prove he didn't, we must assume that he did."

You can see, that if one wishes to make a claim (bigfoot exists, the man killed ms.jones) that their claim requires evidence. The negative never requires proof because disbelief is the default state, and you cant switch the burden of proof to the negative.

I believe that there is an infinite and as such all things are possible. All things have happened, are happening, and will happen. I know it is hard for some to conceive of such a realty, because of the ned for humans to frame things and place an order to them. I believe there is no order, just chaos of all things. The only thing that you have within your grasp that I can liken this to is your mind.

So with that in mind, somewhere, somehow, there is a Bigfoot. Is there evidence before me or you? I do not even know the answer to that, fo I can only comment on what I percieve to be.

Ok, your "belief" doesnt make this a reality. Beliefs are a dime a dozen, the only thing that makes them worth anything is there justification. And this is what i am interested in this.If there is enough proof to convince you, then the same should go for us. You understand it enough to believe it, so why cant we?
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So what you said before was a perception? How so.

Green, this thread was about what people believe, not what is provable or not. You cant prove half the things you claim are true, so why do you apply a standard to me, that you do not apply to yourself?

He was asking what people believe about bigfoot, and anytime you ask about whether or not people "believe" something, it is only natural for reality to step in. Especially if it is something like bigfoot, aliens, etc... Also, if "reality" wasnt a part of this thread, why would anyone beliefs matter? Does anyone here really care IF anyone believes in bigfoot, or do they care more about WHY they do/dont believe in bigfoot? I guarantee if i only said "i believe in bigfoot" or "i dont believe in bigfoot" no one would care until i stated WHY.

And i make no claims i cant back up. If you wish to challenge me on this, please start a new thread.

Gentlemen, don't hijack my thread please. I had indeed, envisioned folks coming here to either discuss "why" they don't beleive Bigfoot to exist or "why" they think he does and possibly to share any stories about a Bigfoot sighting you may have heard about from your family and friends.

Hijack a thread?
Oh Faux Pax!

How come they've never found a dead one?

I eat them.

The fact that no one can find any solid evidence of Sasquatch is in it's self not proof that they don't exist.
Of course, the fact that no one can find any evidence is also not proof that they do.

Well, if they live in the deep forests of Oregon, Washington and Northern California it would not surprise me that we don't have a corpse. When I lived in Oregon, I was a logger for several years, as well as being an avid outdoorsman. Sometimes during my work, or on camping outings or while hiking, I'd come across an animal that had died. Here is a real example, going to work very early one morning with the rest of the logging crew (we rode a bus for about 100 miles to the work site), we saw a dead black bear beside the road. Some asshole had shot it and had no idea how to track it, so it crawled into a bush by the road and died. Everyday going to work and coming home, we'd look at it. In less the three days it was completely gone. Maggots, carrion eaters, scavangers took care of it in less then three days, there was absolutely no sign that it had been there to begin with.

Like many other "faith" or "belief without evidence" questions. statistics are ignored when they shouldn't be. While it is sometimes technically possible that these things might exist, statistically they are "Impossible" or such an extreme long shot so as not to be believable, similar to one person simultaneously winning all the current lotteries.

One should consider each and every day that has passed without confirmable evidence.

While I don't wish to "poohpah" anyone's belief in these things, I do strongly encourage them to investigate
why scientists don't believe it.

So what you are saying is Bigfoot may be like George Bush? Statistics showed he lost 2 presidential elections, yet he still exists as our president, and noone can explain why or how he exists in this current state.