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Jack
Hazaa!


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Right well, here you go.

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ResistanceInOceania
when stephen colbert interviewed bill kristol of PNAC he knew this and encouraged it.


ill link if i find it
Jack
QUOTE(ResistanceInOceania @ Friday, 25 August 2006, 7:08 pm) [snapback]70093[/snapback]

when stephen colbert interviewed bill kristol of PNAC he knew this and encouraged it.
ill link if i find it



He only wants the dems to retake the house because he believes that will help the republicans win another term in the white house. What a dick huh?
sky of mind
QUOTE(Jack @ Friday, 25 August 2006, 10:23 pm) [snapback]70114[/snapback]

He only wants the dems to retake the house because he believes that will help the republicans win another term in the white house. What a dick huh?



Hey, it worked once. Can't fault his logic.
Can fault that it won't work twice, and that as people wake up he himself is more and more likely to lose his best neo-con foot soldiers to the legal system.
soon2b
I hope they're right Jack, but I also remember this:
2006: Strickland leads in the polls with three months to go. (Dispatch)
2004: Kerry led in the polls with three months to go: A CNN/USA Today/Gallup poll conducted in Ohio from Aug. 13-15 of 2004 showed a 10-point lead, giving Kerry "52 percent support to Bush's 42 percent." (All eyes on Ohio, Greg Botelho, CNN, 8/31/04)
sky of mind
QUOTE(soon2b @ Saturday, 26 August 2006, 6:51 am) [snapback]70127[/snapback]

I hope they're right Jack, but I also remember this:
2006: Strickland leads in the polls with three months to go. (Dispatch)
2004: Kerry led in the polls with three months to go: A CNN/USA Today/Gallup poll conducted in Ohio from Aug. 13-15 of 2004 showed a 10-point lead, giving Kerry "52 percent support to Bush's 42 percent." (All eyes on Ohio, Greg Botelho, CNN, 8/31/04)




Thank you for the Reality check Sooner.
The fat lady ain't singin just yet!
soon2b
Sherrod Brown, the congressman from Loraine OH who is running against Mike DeWine is VERY liberal, I love the guy and some polls show him with a slight lead. I'm thinking, damn, this is too good to be true. The PR guys who did the Swift Boat ads against Kerry are already working with DeWine and of course Sec. of State Blackwell's doing his best to create conditions favorable for another stolen election. I figure about next month the big Republican bucks'll start rolling in with 24/7 negative ads and it's a bankroll Dems just can't match. I know it's gonna get real ugly but I'm keepin' the faith.

Ted Strickland, the Dem running for Gov. against Blackwell is a conservative Democrat (a minister in fact) has a comfortable lead, probably too big for even Diebold to flip, and not much to attack on. Because he has no kids they tried to get it out that he must be gay, but it backfired and they apologized. I think he'll be okay.
Jack
QUOTE(soon2b @ Saturday, 26 August 2006, 8:29 am) [snapback]70152[/snapback]

Sherrod Brown, the congressman from Loraine OH who is running against Mike DeWine is VERY liberal, I love the guy and some polls show him with a slight lead. I'm thinking, damn, this is too good to be true. The PR guys who did the Swift Boat ads against Kerry are already working with DeWine and of course Sec. of State Blackwell's doing his best to create conditions favorable for another stolen election. I figure about next month the big Republican bucks'll start rolling in with 24/7 negative ads and it's a bankroll Dems just can't match. I know it's gonna get real ugly but I'm keepin' the faith.

Ted Strickland, the Dem running for Gov. against Blackwell is a conservative Democrat (a minister in fact) has a comfortable lead, probably too big for even Diebold to flip, and not much to attack on. Because he has no kids they tried to get it out that he must be gay, but it backfired and they apologized. I think he'll be okay.



Maybe but the people in ohio have become very distrustful of the republicans in their state, which may help unseat dewine. The most recent polls have had dewine down by about 8, so there is some hope there. Also, the dems are currently out pacing the republicans in fundraising and i am sure that Dean is going to be pumping a lot of money into Ohio to try and turn the state blue. While i agree that we can't just assume that the dems are going to win this time, i think we also need to realize that just because the republicans have a plan or run attack ads, that doesn't mean they are going gain anything. The democrats are not helpless after all. Stay positive.


Also, I disagree with the comparison between this election and 2004. A lot has changed since then. First off, American's views towards republicans have soured in the past two years. Bush's approval at this point in 2004 was about 48%, now it is in the mid-30's. A lot of negative news has come out in the past two years, from Katrina, to Iraq, to Plame and Rove, social security, Terri Shivo, gas prices, Ambramoff, ect. There is also the fact that terrorism, a major issue which kept a lot of people from wanting to vote democrat in 2004, has pretty much lost all of its affect on the American people. Second, that was presidential election, not a mid-term congressional election. In 2004, everything centered around bush and kerry. That is not the way things are any more. It was a polarized electorate fighting for two men, both of who, many people felt passionately. This time, it is hundreds of individual races, in a democratic leaning year. Third, kerry was not up by 10 at this point(i dont' think ever actually). Here is what late August looked like:

Zogby(8/30/04):

Bush-49%
Kerry-47%

George Washington University(8/17/04):

Bush-47%
Kerry-49%

TIPP-(8/17/04)

Bush-43%
Kerry-43%

odanny
QUOTE(soon2b @ Saturday, 26 August 2006, 11:29 am) [snapback]70152[/snapback]

Ted Strickland, the Dem running for Gov. against Blackwell is a conservative Democrat (a minister in fact) has a comfortable lead, probably too big for even Diebold to flip, and not much to attack on. Because he has no kids they tried to get it out that he must be gay, but it backfired and they apologized. I think he'll be okay.


I sure hope Blackwell gets beaten. I hope its not a close race, either, cause I dont trust the voting machines in Ohio.

And, of course, I'm glad that Sherrod Brown is battling hard against DeWine. May they both get victories.
Jack
QUOTE(odanny @ Saturday, 26 August 2006, 1:46 pm) [snapback]70179[/snapback]

I sure hope Blackwell gets beaten. I hope its not a close race, either, cause I dont trust the voting machines in Ohio.

And, of course, I'm glad that Sherrod Brown is battling hard against DeWine. May they both get victories.



He is gone. There is eight weeks or so until the election and he is down by some 20 odd points. You can't rig an election that is clearly a blow out. There is no way he can close the gap either. He is running as a republican for governor, in a state which has the least popular governor in the country, who is a republican. People know he is corrupt and what is worse for him is that people are going to connect him with Bob Taft. I made a list earlier of all of the awful republicans who are going to be out of power in the next few months. I should go find it, i'm sure i could add some names to the list.
sky of mind
QUOTE(Jack @ Sunday, 27 August 2006, 11:24 am) [snapback]70218[/snapback]

He is gone. There is eight weeks or so until the election and he is down by some 20 odd points. You can't rig an election that is clearly a blow out. There is no way he can close the gap either. He is running as a republican for governor, in a state which has the least popular governor in the country, who is a republican. People know he is corrupt and what is worse for him is that people are going to connect him with Bob Taft. I made a list earlier of all of the awful republicans who are going to be out of power in the next few months. I should go find it, i'm sure i could add some names to the list.




Agreed, Blackwell is history.
The fat lady is warming up!
Jack
QUOTE(sky of mind @ Sunday, 27 August 2006, 8:04 pm) [snapback]70280[/snapback]

Agreed, Blackwell is history.
The fat lady is warming up!


Latest poll has him down by 25 now. Even better. Fuck that douch.
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