"Now that Abel and Cap'n have been "uncovered" they might as well stay."

Oo-o-o-kay! And if you ever find shit in your pants, well, hell, you know it's there. Might as well leave it.

In the meantime, while this has been very entertaining, how many troops have died in Afghanistan and Iraq?
How many "collateral" deaths have occurred? How much money have the bastards in OUR White House stolen from us? How many billions in profits have the oil companies raked in since 9/11? They're traitors to the U.S.A...price gouging during a time of war. The war on terror HAS no end. Bush says we're NOT LEAVING Iraq while he's pResident. Tax cuts for the rich....what about armor for our troops?
WHAT ABOUT OUR TROOPS?!

Really, Panda, we've been played by "Abell" thinking he's retired military... how do we even know he was or got an honorable discharge even? While we sit here wondering when Bush is going to change the course and BRING 'EM HOME? Don't you want them home, "Abell" , OR NOT?

Or do you have a hidden agenda of interests in the Military Industrial Complex ? C'mon , spill it... why do you want the troops to STAY in Iraq, "Abell"?

Good lord Panda, Wanna wield that reality stick a little softer? Ouch.

So maybe the "three goils" smelled the poop before we did... damn, I am sooooo naive

capn was outed too? where?

Yeah, I jumped on that bandwagon too fast ... need proof of Cap please

"Good soldiers (and good soldiering has not a fucking thing to do with causes. Soldiering is an art, a science, a craft and a calling all its own and unlike any other) do not go down while there is blood and breath in the body.

No doubt Abell9 is retired military. Ranger, too. You can't touch that. Don't even try to take that away from him. You can't. Nobody can. I wouldn't even try, and I'll try damn near anything. And if it doesn't kill me, I'll probably do it until it does.

Relax. The girls weren't privy to anything that I wasn't. Hell, I could give you Lt Dan's phone number at his base, if it wasn't in violation of the terms of privacy. We all knew who they were all along, the issue wasn't some conspiracy, it was how to deal with it. I know some folks want to say Abell was outed, but as I stated earlier, Abell already told us that he heard about us on a forum that called us loonies, and he came over to see for himself. It's no secret and no harm has been done by him. The only harm that has been caused is by people jumping the gun, over-reacting, and assuming the worst. Everything is fine.

As far as Abell supporting the Iraq war or the Pres, if he hasn't brought it up, let's not try to incite a flame war about it. OK? He hasn't needled us about things that we may disagreee with him on, let's not do that to him. OK?

We're all good people that love our country, let's not actively try to find differences. I think we've broken some stereo-types and gained some respect from Abell. Let's not work to find differences.

There's always time for fights later.

QUOTE
Abell9 wrote:
Yep, I registered. Figure to have some meaningful dialoge, get accepted, debate in a calm professional way.....and then one day when I have their ears, eyes, and hearts......lead them all to a mass suicide outside of the gates of the White House.


He's a Straussian... no honor in that. What would his mama say? That's right> I said HIS MAMA !!!

...and then he came here and found out what we are all about. And where did he say he was a Straussian?

He didn't have to say it, he practices THE THEORY ... he are one

AH Ha! You fell for it! It was a part of his PLAN to get accepted! And YOU are accepting him! This means YOU are a part of the PNAC conspiracy! aaaARRRhhhgggHHEeAAHH!!!!



I can be a conspiracy nut too!

Abell, I'm telling you like it is... you put your mother to shame. You pretend to be one thing, but you really are another . It's one thing to say you disagree and then cordially debate, but quite another to FOOL us into thinking that you are cordially debating when you were just plain FOOLIN' US

tsk Tsk TSK

"There's always time for fights later."

Promise?

Not that it matters, but there is an abell9 registered at these sites as well:

http://www.airborneranger.com/forums/lofiv....php?t1876.html

http://www.socnetcentral.com/vb/member.php?u=8666


Its amazing what you find when you google a nick!

That WAS softly.

Oh , it matters ... he is 50 years old and still LYIN'? Old dogs who lie never learn... he's a disgrace to his mother

Do the offspring of satan have mothers? heh... i kid i kid!


yank, why so angry?

His Mom didn't go through labor to raise a phoney liar...

Im curious, did he ever lie to us?

Even worse... he set us up before he even got here... "pre-emptive" , you might say:


"...and then one day when I have their ears, eyes, and hearts......lead them all to a mass suicide outside of the gates of the White House."

That sounds like a joke to me, not too much to be upset about. Right? I mean seriously, whats the worse he could ACTUALLY do? Call us a couple names and get banned? Until we have reason to actually get angry at him (i dont believe the quote above is enough) we should be cool, albeit on our toes.

Worse than that, I've been reading that forum and all those folks were set up and lied to by the crooks in power. They were lied to about Saddam Hussein being connected to 9/11, they were lied to about how easy the wars Bush sent them to would be, they were lied to about their VA benefits, they were lied to about the amount of time they'd have to serve in a war zone. Bush lied. Thousands have died. That's a REAL set up. Those kinds of lies can't be taken back...not once you've lost a leg or your best buddy or come home to no job and the threat of being sent back to kill people you now know had NOTHING to do with 9/11.
If anyone's been lead to a mass suicide, it's people who still believe Bush and his cabal.

Joke? He's gotta a pre-meditated plan to pretend to be cordially debating , just to see how far he can go to get us to trust him so he can have his shits and giggles with his comrades about us... that's so funny I forgot to laugh

And so the the theory of violence begets violence can now be applied to LIARS> lies beget lies.

Bears repeating


C'mon guys don't be so paranoid. I wish I could explain things better without violating trust or the terms of privacy, but seriously, RE FUCKING LAX. There is nothing to worry about. He's been honest since day one. Been respectful. Held his tongue when he was attacked. What's the worst that could happen? He goes crazy and "burns the place down" as one of the freaks at the other forum said? Puh-leeze. It takes 5 seconds to ban him and the forum is under constant watch. He's done nothing but maintain his own integrity and respected ours.

And Yank, I love you to death, but if you're gonna call that man a Straussian, then you might as well call me a red socialist commie agitator. (Which many at that forum from which he came would) Let's not be those guys.

Still hurts

Sorry, POAC< I call him as I see him...now, that is. I was fooled before . If he looks like a duck...
BTW , Zooks, if we didn't say so already, a

BIG THANK YOU

for showing us the way, the truth, and the light!

Well, OK comrade.

I thought the girls leaving had nothing to do with Abell? I thought they wanted Scorp banned and TJ said no. which opened up the whole Cat and recruiting others thing. When did Abell get into that mess?

Hurts who? I directed that out into the tubes and guests.

Hell, maybe it SHOULD hurt.

I don't about the tameness or civility near as much as I do not care for being deceived.
No, you never did actually tell a lie. Though it now seems pretty clear there wasa whole lot you did not share with us.

This then, is a deliberater deception. And if it's not strictly the truth, how many other options are their?

But again, I don't want you to leave. I have liked what I have seen. I just don't like being deceived.
Bull shit is bull shit. The question is, will this be the start of something negative, or will it pass?
You might say that's up to me, but I do disagree, because I haven't been the deceiver. You a smart cookie Abell. I believe this will reslove it's self. Accept you must remember, that trust is a very fragile bridge.

Maybe I like it?
Either way, isn't that for me to decide?

Abell is :

THE DECEIVER

Yo Mama!

What type of big shits and giggles will they have?



Disclaimer:
This commentary is totally made up by me, and in no way represents the views of anything sane or logical.

I understand what your saying TJ, and I'm with you as long as you remember that the rest of us were NOT privy to the information you had, so to us they were outted.

Even so, the fact that I liked what they posted before has not changed. The only question I want answered, that will take some time, is to know if what I saw then was real? They purposefully deceived before, and no matter how much you defend, they possess the potential and could do it again. But that doesn't guarante that they will.

I suspect even Zooks will learn to accept, even if he always keeps one eye on them.
Zooks has earned my deepest respect. Abell and Cap'n also might.
Lets give it a chance.


Needless to say, it's been a very interesting POAC week, AND IT'S ONLY WEDNESDAY!

Yeah, this is better than a damn soap opera!

Took me a bit to catch up with all the drama.
Sorry for the really silly typos.
Tai Ping is not my fav activity.





edit to add...

Crap, typoed a comment about typos!
What's for dinner anyway?

Tai Ping? Can i get an egg roll with that?

Since I don't have a lot of time for this kind of thing any more I was hoping for more national politics and less site politics, though I, too, have been guilty of enflaming dramas. Not to worry, though; I only have two more days of relaxation, then I'll be gone again.

What is it about we humans that we occasionally wallow in our worst characteristics?

For my few remaining days I will (try to) confine my comments to truly relevant subjects if I make any comments at all, and look forward to the group's more elevated forms of conversation.

Um, I had been rather enjoying your all too infrequent comments.
Don't say you'll be gone again, you can still pop in to have your say.

No no, not gone as in "martyring", gone as in not near a computer for several days at a time. I will be back when in out of the field; Fore-warned is fore-armed.

I've enjoyed her comments as well.
VT has a way of cutting through the crap and getting straight to the point.
Le'ts hope that her busyness is not a perminant situation.


Sometimes we humans have to be just what we are. Failing, imperfect, emotional dimwits.
We can't always stay on the high road. We can't always maintain our own high ideals, though we do try.
It's OK to get drunk on our own self pity, insecurity or vanity, or what ever happens to be todays human weekness dejour.
As long as we don't remain there, and as long as we're learning from the experience, I say wallow till yer done with it, then move on without regrets! Life is too short.

As long as it's just your pants we're talking about.

He didn't...

and to reiterate a smart person:

"What is it about we humans that we occasionally wallow in our worst characteristics?"
- the vinagar taster

Please do not drag me into this.

Oh good. Just a few days.
Well, okay then.

Poopy pants? I've been DYING to say that.