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Captain America
The discussion about communism on another thread prompted this question. I have been reading the CPUSA homepage. In it, I see alot of promises, alot of problems pointed out with a capitalist economy/society. But it doesn't mention how the US would accomplish the transistion from our current form of government to communism. All it mentions about this, is a plan to implement a socialist form of government with a kind of natural progression to full communism in the future.

Now, I freely admit I have not studied communism so I'm a blank slate about this. But, haven't most other governments that called themselves communist transistioned through revolution? How do proponents of communism see a possible transition occuring in the US?
sky of mind
QUOTE(Captain America @ Friday, 21 July 2006, 8:41 am) [snapback]64451[/snapback]

The discussion about communism on another thread prompted this question. I have been reading the CPUSA homepage. In it, I see alot of promises, alot of problems pointed out with a capitalist economy/society. But it doesn't mention how the US would accomplish the transistion from our current form of government to communism. All it mentions about this, is a plan to implement a socialist form of government with a kind of natural progression to full communism in the future.

Now, I freely admit I have not studied communism so I'm a blank slate about this. But, haven't most other governments that called themselves communist transistioned through revolution? How do proponents of communism see a possible transition occuring in the US?





Good point Cap'n. How many business owners, both big and very small, right down to the lemonaid stand would be willing to give up their ownership?
Buck Laser
I'd say that worrying about communism getting a foothold in the US is right up there with worrying about the sun turning supernova during our lifetime. In other words, it ain't gonna happen.

On the other hand, our society/economy/government has to do a much better job than it's been doing in making sure that NO ONE is denied basic services, including health, education, job training and equal rights. We have a hell of a long way to go in these areas, and some free-market fundamentalists are likely to raise the spectre of communism in order to keep it from happening.
sky of mind
Speaking for myself, I wasn't at all worried.
All I was doing is considering the possibilities, just for fun.


Though, i would like to see the Communist Party back and have the same influence as they did back in the 20's and 30's.
rcorporon
Communism can only come about through revolution, for the exact reason that Sky laid out. The beourgoisie woudln't give up what they have willingly.

Communism in the US? That would be a difficult sell, methinks. The US gov't has brainwashed the people for so long to think that their lives are perfect just the way they are, and North Americans have such a massive amount of apathy, that the revolution would probably not start in North America.

Europe is more likely.
sky of mind
I can agree with most of what you have said Scorp, except this one aspect just sticks in my craw.

QUOTE(rcorporon @ Friday, 21 July 2006, 7:01 pm) [snapback]64527[/snapback]

The US gov't has brainwashed the people for so long to think that their lives are perfect just the way they are



I am one of those American people, and this statement implies that I am some what ignorant and easily led.
Now I grant you, I'm still learning. I will always be a student. But, that doesn't mean I am unable to have an educated and informed opinion on the subject.

I believe the statement may be true of a large percentage of Americans, but, and this is highly significant, not all Americans!


rcorporon
QUOTE(sky of mind @ Saturday, 22 July 2006, 12:25 pm) [snapback]64542[/snapback]

I can agree with most of what you have said Scorp, except this one aspect just sticks in my craw.
I am one of those American people, and this statement implies that I am some what ignorant and easily led.
Now I grant you, I'm still learning. I will always be a student. But, that doesn't mean I am unable to have an educated and informed opinion on the subject.

I believe the statement may be true of a large percentage of Americans, but, and this is highly significant, not all Americans!


You're correct.

I didn't mean to imply "every" American is foolish and trained to believe that their way of life is the greatest.

However, I'd venture to say taht most American's feel that way, and it's a result of gov't brainwashing.

But, you are right and not everybody is so naieve.

Apologies for the generalization.
WhichTruth
QUOTE(rcorporon @ Friday, 21 July 2006, 9:01 pm) [snapback]64562[/snapback]

You're correct.

I didn't mean to imply "every" American is foolish and trained to believe that their way of life is the greatest.

However, I'd venture to say taht most American's feel that way, and it's a result of gov't brainwashing.

But, you are right and not everybody is so naieve.

Apologies for the generalization.


I have to confess that I have not read or studied the tennats of communism. (I seem to have a inate distrust of any "ism") I think we have been brainwashed into thinking that the idea itself is evil, as are any ideas different from our own. Kinda like looking at some of these religious fringe groups and claiming the bible to be evil.

Observing what has happened in this country over the last few years, I think I am beginning to understand one of Marx statements--relligion being the opiate of the masses.

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